It largely assumes there will be no institutional or cooperative effort to prevent/reduce the breakdown of society.
It largely assumes a global breakdown from a cataclysmic event, but throughout all the most devastating events in human history (black plague, countless wars, etc), even though societies can collapse, look how quickly most are rebuilt. World War II was less than 100 years ago but if you visit France, Germany, Great Britain, Japan, Russia-- countries completely decimated by war-- you'd never know it by looking at them. Vietnam went from a complete civil war to a western tourist destination in the span of 50 years. Collapse tends to happen in regional pockets and order is usually quickly restored by outside influence.
Most of their post-collapse ideas are not much different than religious end-of-days scripture, just sans God. Kind of a constant cloud of doom and gloom that never becomes fulfilled. So they just keep latching on to the next impending disaster, each time the same Chicken Little prophecy that this is going to be the great event that starts it all, and then when it doesn't happen no one really acknowledges they were wrong and they just keep pushing the date back.
Humanity in general is usually two steps forward and one step back. Humans are also incredibly adaptable and creative problem solvers. Even faced with cataclysmic events that devastate the world's population, we tend to bounce back fairly quickly becuase we thrive in cooperative efforts and its a pretty impossible task to kill us all.
And societies have faced massive collapses before. Like the Bronze age collapse or the fall of the Roman empire were both catastrophic events that destroyed the lives of to what millions of people were the entire world, and what happened after?
The people who could got back up and rebuilt society. They moved on and built new societies from the ashes of the old and human history continued to where we are today
r/Collapse has some flawed logic:
It largely assumes there will be no institutional or cooperative effort to prevent/reduce the breakdown of society.
It largely assumes a global breakdown from a cataclysmic event, but throughout all the most devastating events in human history (black plague, countless wars, etc), even though societies can collapse, look how quickly most are rebuilt. World War II was less than 100 years ago but if you visit France, Germany, Great Britain, Japan, Russia-- countries completely decimated by war-- you'd never know it by looking at them. Vietnam went from a complete civil war to a western tourist destination in the span of 50 years. Collapse tends to happen in regional pockets and order is usually quickly restored by outside influence.
Most of their post-collapse ideas are not much different than religious end-of-days scripture, just sans God. Kind of a constant cloud of doom and gloom that never becomes fulfilled. So they just keep latching on to the next impending disaster, each time the same Chicken Little prophecy that this is going to be the great event that starts it all, and then when it doesn't happen no one really acknowledges they were wrong and they just keep pushing the date back.
Humanity in general is usually two steps forward and one step back. Humans are also incredibly adaptable and creative problem solvers. Even faced with cataclysmic events that devastate the world's population, we tend to bounce back fairly quickly becuase we thrive in cooperative efforts and its a pretty impossible task to kill us all.
And societies have faced massive collapses before. Like the Bronze age collapse or the fall of the Roman empire were both catastrophic events that destroyed the lives of to what millions of people were the entire world, and what happened after?
The people who could got back up and rebuilt society. They moved on and built new societies from the ashes of the old and human history continued to where we are today