So I never really got this one. It seems like she is a polarizing figure here, but why is that? Also, what's the joke behind the "amber" bot?

  • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I didn’t call her a racist for pointing out there are non-white cops

    Another reason why accusations need to be specific: if they aren't, you end up with whack-a-mole shit like this. "Oh I wasn't actually talking about that comment you dug up and responded to; I was talking about something totally different, guess you wasted you time lol." You're doing a cop's job if you engage in this sort of time wasting wrecker behavior.

    she refers to blm and the protesters as “minoritarians” for advancing the Abolish the Police concept

    As someone else has already pointed out to you, total abolition of the police is in fact a minority position. Pointing out that radical solutions aren't widely popular isn't even close to racism, and rejecting the reality of that will get us nowhere.

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
      2·
      4 years ago

      if they aren’t, you end up with whack-a-mole shit like this

      lol little shit you know perfectly well why I called her a racist and it wasn't because of some random time stamp quotes you hand selected from a thread

      As someone else has already pointed out to you, total abolition of the police is in fact a minority position

      And as I pointed out to that garbage comment, socialism is a minority position, communism is a minority position, marxism is a minority position, in a vacuum this criticism is politically meaningless, trends shift, opinions change, that's the goal of engagement and advancing ones position over time to new people, what's important is the context of Amber's usage of the word. Which wasn't as you claim to "point out something obvious" of course you'd already know that if you bothered to actually review the episode

      Her take was an attack meant to shut down other leftists, uncritically using the concept of the black monolith (a monolith that apparently ignores 20% of black people who already agree with the Abolish Police concept) and instead presents the monolith as an unchanging and static force immune to leftist agitation, not only is this defeatist pro-cop horseshit, it's racist and shuts the door on the 20% who are already convinced and the other 80% who are unconvinced but nevertheless many of whom are open to leftist alternatives

      How's that for a "specific" accusation

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
        1·
        4 years ago

        you know perfectly well why I called her a racist

        Holy fuck, without a specific accusation you don't know this. How could I possibly spoonfeed this to you any more gently

        • CyborgMarx [any, any]
          2·
          4 years ago

          and you make an accusation of racism elsewhere in this thread)

          That's you, you wrote that, you said yourself you saw my first comment in this thread where I called her a racist for referring to protesters as minoritarians "Calling blm protesters minoritarians isn’t just some “off the cuff cowboy hot take on the fly” it’s fuckin racist, and she can eat shit" there's no comment where I called her a racist for pointing there are non-white cops

          So shut the fuck up about "not knowing" the context of my racism accusation, lol why you playing dumb?

          • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
            1·
            4 years ago

            You made that comment after our conversation started you fucking clown. And you linked to a thread that referred to the "time stamped comment" I quoted above. Like I said, this is whack-a-mole style, time wasting wrecker shit.