they're aiming to bring 2kg back, the Soviet trip in 1976 brought 170g back

on Arecibo:

But John Mathews, an emeritus professor at the Pennsylvania State University who visited and used Arecibo regularly from 1969 through 2019, says that “deferred maintenance has been a problem for decades, and it’s only gotten worse.” He points to visible corrosion of dish components and sagging smaller cables. Those are external features, he admits, “but many of us suspected that the structure was compromised.” He adds that “the ship was sinking, and the people who could get jobs elsewhere wisely did so” after the transition to the current UCF-led management team in 2018.

In conversations with Physics Today, many Arecibo users and employees suggested that morale among employees was as frayed as the cables that broke, and some requested anonymity for fear of retaliation. “The family atmosphere is totally gone,” says one. The people working there have different benefits, depending on which of three entities in the management consortium employs them. Some people took pay cuts, he says, and some do not have retirement packages.

sclerotic fucking state won't even shell out a few more million dollars a year to properly maintain an iconic, world-class scientific instrument

  • SaberTail [any]
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    4 years ago

    It's definitely making me doom a bit.

    I spent a decade of my life doing scientific research, and it was great and fulfilling. But this kind of thing happens all the time, and it's so demoralizing. I'm not even talking about the 70s when there was enough change in the national lab couch cushions to build particle colliders in the parking lots. But knowing that amazing scientific devices with years of development put into them, and potentially decades of good research ahead of them, instead get left to decay and rot.

    I got out to write code, which sucks, but at least it pays well.

    Also, for reference, the Arecibo budget before austerity cuts doomed it was $12 million a year. A single F-35A costs between $78 million and $133 million. Enough to run the thing for 5 or 10 years. Fuck!

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Also, for reference, the Arecibo budget before austerity cuts doomed it was $12 million a year. A single F-35A costs between $78 million and $133 million. Enough to run the thing for 5 or 10 years. Fuck!

      Coincidentally, F-35As also frequently fall out to the ground as a heap of ruined and twisted metal, a metaphor for the dying empire that built it.

    • piss [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      I spent a decade of my life doing scientific research, and it was great and fulfilling.

      :rat-salute:

      it's gross, tenths of a penny on the military dollar could have saved this thing (among many others) and they wouldn't spare it, even for the sake of national cachet

    • VHS [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      This awful country will truly sacrifice anything at the altar of military spending.

  • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]M
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    4 years ago

    If it wasn't for the soviets the Americans would have continued playing and rolling in shit. My master's degree class had several readings where the start of our field is attributed to 1) the WWII training program and 2) the Space Race funding STEM education and research. If it wasn't for the soviets we wouldn't have cared enough to go to the moon.

  • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    damn that picture is tragic. I hadn't seen such a high quality photo of the destruction of the structure until now

    • piss [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      yeah, I was looking for pics when the news broke and then hours later I saw this one and was like "oh, that hurts"

  • DornerBros [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I didn't realize the damage was that extensive, this is fucking embarrassing especially after Americans were speculating about the collapse of the 3 Gorges Dam for months

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Fucking monsters. That dish was one of the wonders of humanity. I'm literally crying in sadness and anger.

    • piss [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      thanks, i'm mad, this whole year has been an incredible display of national dysfunction and this is the cherry on top

      maybe some of the people who worked with it will find their way to the FAST telescope in China

  • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Goddamn, reminded of the Decemberist who said Tsarist Russia was so decript it couldn't even hang a man correctly, after he survived his execution when the rope snapped. Like America can even die gracefully, they didn't even do enough inspections to shut it down a year early and take the time to dismantle the receiver properly, maybe leave the dish as a monument to America's past scientific glory. The structural sagging, fraying cables and rust penetration would have been blindingly obvious for years, to the point where you could estimate when the structure would finally fall apart, like this wasn't (or shouldn't have been) a suprise.

    Instead they just let it collapse and create a ghoulish symbol of America's own decay.