Link because I am not always a lib.
Cw:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/16fw9br/911_is_hilarious_to_these_kids/
I mean, it wouldn't have happened if it was treated as an actual somber moment instead of a star-spangled spit-shine that ended up in two wars and millions of innocent people killed and injured, and marked the point for most kids that nothing was ever going to be good again!
So yeah
I mean, it’s clear that the Iraq war did have nothing to do with 9/11, but I’m guessing that wasn’t the point being made.
and marked the point for most kids that nothing was ever going to be good again!
no that was 2008
for those kids it was, for these kids now its covid, and for the next kids it'll be their whole state burning down or country flooding or when all the crops fail or it just kind of stops raining
I think most of the economic woes of the present are still largely results of 2008 and austerity
Oh its certainly still a huge factor on material conditions, at least here in the US thats for sure, but I don't know how big of a blip it will be on the average 17 year olds consciousness in the year 2030, or 2040. 9/11 will still be a big one, and covid definitely will be too (unless its just the first of many many pandemics in a row) I suspect '08 will fade into the background and be memory holed here in the US
yeah but 08 is largely why no one can afford a house which is definitely an important aspect of their future lives even if no one remembers it.
I getcha, I just don't think that being the cause of their frustrations will be visible anymore except to the politically educated, I think the true origins will be obfuscated, not arguing about its importance at all :)
They won’t remember that because the one in the early 2020s made things even worse
lmao, for real. my mid 40s older aister, out of nowhere earlier this summer, described something funny (like a movie) as "better than 9-11". cracked me up.
the only people getting choked up about this cultural moment anymore and celebrating patriotism about it while everything has become so obviously a shit show here are absolute rubes.
A joke I remember from the 12th of September 2001.
What was the last meal served at the WTC Burger King?
Two flaming tower burgers.
Me explaining the cultural and emotional impact of 9/11 to young Americans:
Imagine two burgers
Now imagine muslamic style individuals smashing planes into the burgers
These are the people complaining that kids are sensitive snowflakes
Thanks, I replied to that thread with this:
My friend.
These kids grew up watching a weekly to daily 9/11 happening around them, in the form of 7 million global deaths from COVID, treated again and again as a total joke. Half the population essentially won't even admit it's real, and even the people who admit it's real tend to have not taken it very seriously at all.
They were constantly threatened for a huge part of their childhood, a lot of them have dead relatives including dead parents, and it's still doing a 9/11 a month just in the US. And 75% of the ones with dead parents gave COVID to their parents because they were forced into a goddamn classroom.
How could they take this seriously? Ask yourself, what makes you feel somber about it- is it the number of deaths? No of course it's not the number of deaths - so what is it? Could it be that you absorbed a cultural phenomenon over the last 22 years that they weren't exposed to? Don't you think maybe you were acculturated into tearing up and saluting so you'd maybe get thirsty for the blood of innocent Muslims?
Not to mention it happened before they were born. You don't give a shit about the Boxer Rebellion, that doesn't make you cry. So why would they care about this overused blip on the radar?
You brigaded Reddit? Clearly leftism has gone too far. I'll see you extremists at the Hague!
It was also a whataboutism! How abso fucking loutely DARE they?!? Don't they know that helps trumputler?
Not to mention this kids living day to day in a climate disaster that all their relatives and societies just choose to ignore and fly to burning islands to "unwind" instead.
Wish someone would ask people like this why they are so desensitized that they just keep doing what they have always done when people are literally getting killed by pavements now.
Actually, some of them care very much about the Boxer Rebellion and fantasize about invading China again
Me and my Boxer Bros dreaming about rising up and expelling the foreign devils again.
[–]Spartanfred104 237 points 8 hours ago What grade? My 10 year old niece in Canada even does a moment of silence and it isn't memes.
If this is true ...
It's either some Rod and Todd styled weiner kids or Flag-brained parents forcing some brainwashing on that poor girl
Reddit went from ranting about boomers complaining about Millennials to doing the same thing with Gen Z.
Redditors smugly think they're different from every preceeding generation since time immemorial, then do the exact same thing as those generations.
to be fair thats what all of the previous generations did
(the ones affluent and influentual enough culturally to be the guiding force for the times, of course)
Im too lazy to find it but that one whiney ass fucking article some loser wrote in like 1820 about how "kids these days are too busy reading dang ol BOOKS to LOOK OUT THE DAMN WINDOW like we did in our day!" and the way he talks about it is like every fucking white 54 year old complaining about anything ever
"They will cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written, calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves, but by means of external marks."
- Socrates on writing (at least according to Plato)
an adult who's still choked up about 9/11.... just when I think I understand Americans. like 60% of their ideology and culture and way of life depends on not giving a shit about 1) historical events that happened in the past, 2) stuff that happened "over there"- and for most of the country New York/DC is "over there". honestly
they have to understand that these kids only memories of 9/11 is the massive overreaction
Wonder if the 60,000 dead in the Turkish earthquake will get breathless coverage and memorials for the next century
Of course not, the ghoul to non-ghoul ratio was too far off to register
I never lived in USA and it feels weird for me to joke around other country's tragic event.
That being said, (dark) comedy is a common way of facing tragedy and I also can see why many USA citizens are desensitized on this event. For what I can grasp the reaction was so overly exaggerated that people have had enough.
Don't get me wrong: it was a tragedy, but it's silly to expect everyone to feel personally affected to THAT level even after decades (and most without even knowing one of the victims).
I'm pretty sure that even in that year many citizens might have moved on kinda soon and didn't care THAT much, but would keep quiet to avoid drama. At some point the edgy comedians made people realize not caring THAT much was pretty common and even the kids started openly joking about it.