r/IronFrontUSA - I found this on Twitter. Let's remember that both the Confederacy and the Soviet Union are nothing to glorify. Cuckfederates and Tankies both get an Arrow!
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Every now and then someone will try to inject anti-communism into this anti-fascist subreddit. This comment and especially this comment are good places to start pushing back on that.

    • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      People on that sub are not anti-american though. I don't see how they'd think this was bad.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        You see some shades of it. They're not on the "god damn America" train (unfortunately), but they definitely aren't in the hopeless "my country, right or wrong" camp either.

        I see a lot of potential to pull people left. Going from "America's done some fucked up things" to "America's done so many fucked up things that we're definitely the bad guys" is a common journey. Similarly, going from "the USSR has a lot of flaws, but they weren't some Nazi-equivalent demon state" to "oh shit actually the USSR did a whole lot of good and the bad is often propaganda or at least defensible" is common.

        From that linked comment chain:

        My point is, there are lots of countries where the stars and Stripes don't represent liberty and democracy as much as they represent coked up death squads, napalming rice farmers, deposing democratically elected governments, propping up fascist dictatorships and, more recently, a fleet of mechanised Predator drones knocking off targets on the presidential kill-list. If you opposite the authoritarianism of the hammer and sickle, then surely you'd also oppose the imperialism and brutality of the stars and Stripes?

        That's someone prime for radicalization, and a place where that opinion gets upvoted has a lot of other people who can be moved left.

        • phimosis__jones [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I'm not sure if there is an American identity that can be recovered politically, but every successful socialist project has also been a nation building project. The CPUSA in the popular front era tried to embrace a leftist American nationalism based on what they saw as the radical potential of the war for independence and the union cause in the civil war but they probably aren't people you'd want to emulate considering what happened to them.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Absolutely. Post it in the linked reddit thread, not just here where many people already agree with it.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          Ditching r*ddit is good, but there's no denying that it's a much larger platform and we can reach many more people on it. A small group of ardent leftists will get nothing done -- one of the most important things we can do right now is pull more people to our side.