Oh God, oh shit, I said I wasn't going to do it. I said I wasn't going to start a China struggle session. Already getting flashbacks to the Discord.

But something just doesn't sit right with me and wanted to get some clarification here...

My question is this: why does China ban labor organizing/unions?

Is this yikes/intentional/actually a good thing?

(Yeah, I do know that labor unions are not always unequivocally good and sometimes they act more like middle management than as representatives of the workers... but democratizing the workplace seems like a no-brainer for any socialist project.)

Thoughts?

    • anthm17 [he/him]
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      That sounds as socialist as Elizabeth Warren.

      edit: I mean the twitter thread, not the one big union thing which is troubling because it's connected to the party.

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          Well sure, but it's better than what we have now.

          The difference is China already has the CCP in charge. These do sound like the sort of gentler capitalism warren was pushing, and that had a small segment of the PMC left so horny they accidentally got holocaust tattoos.

          edit: Oh I meant the twitter thread before which talks about how workers get representation in companies. Not the union stuff.

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            You know why the ‘gentler capitalism’ bs from Warren is bs right?

            It’s because capital runs America and there’s not a hope in hell they’ll let it happen. Why would they settle for gentler capitalism when they can have the real thing?

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        Wow, sexism on this China struggle session? Smdh head.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      Yeah I am definitely not one of the people who think China is a DotP but this is correct. Although I would say that at this point it is more of an excuse.