one could call this childish idealism that is diametrically opposed to the material dialectical analyses that marxists like.. well, liebknecht, used to apply.
people use "authoritarianism" as a scare tactic & ham-fisted way to shut down debate... not as a worthy criticism.
if former capitalists & their toadies have to serve jail time & do hard labor for exploiting & oppressing workers, then this isn't "authoritarianism", no more than the reality of wage compulsion is "authoritarian"
in fact, it's much less authoritarian and is actually ethically justified because of the nature of wage relations in the old system
workers will have to continue class struggle, it's a struggle afterall and not a PMC board meeting or personal grievance airing
the state & legitimizing authority is simply the state... it's like the firmament fixed & eternal
labor is rehabilitating for capitalists who never did labor before, that's the point. it's not about punishment, it's about serving the community & removing class distinctions... i didn't say they would toil endlessly without reprieve
it's not illegal to criticize the government, it's illegal to incite violence against the larger community
the state protects workers from the market in the ideal social democratic model.
the state oppresses the exploiters in the ideal socialist model
I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for other men.
Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to ravage her every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her.
As a man who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically.
oh you mean Trotsky who literally sought help from fascist Japan & NS Germany was rooted out by actual Mexican communists who knew how dastardly and underhanded he was being?
why don't you actually come up with evidence or sources, or a counter-argument, or at least some sort of analytical framing rather than just remain set in your propagandized anti-communist ways?
The Moscow trials are public record. Feel free to examine the evidence and the court transcripts yourself. They have been translated into every imaginable language.
Read the transcripts. I promise you they were neither tortured nor was the confession forced. After the prosecutor proved each point, some of them confessed in hopes of manipulating the soviets. Also, I bet you never learned about the derailed trains or the miners who suffocated to death. THe difference is that in capitalist America, the supervisor at the mine gets to be free and run for the Senate. In the USSR, the workers themselves headed the investigation committee and did such a thorough investigation that they found the plot. Then, mostly it was people snitching on others in hopes of leniency, but because the USSR was a worker state, the people were like "F this shit" and they got no leniency.
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personal experience with bullying should not colour one's analysis of authority in left structures
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elaborate
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dont buy it. that experience is so unfathomably narrow in comparison to the questions we try to resolve
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one could call this childish idealism that is diametrically opposed to the material dialectical analyses that marxists like.. well, liebknecht, used to apply.
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likewise
people use "authoritarianism" as a scare tactic & ham-fisted way to shut down debate... not as a worthy criticism.
if former capitalists & their toadies have to serve jail time & do hard labor for exploiting & oppressing workers, then this isn't "authoritarianism", no more than the reality of wage compulsion is "authoritarian"
in fact, it's much less authoritarian and is actually ethically justified because of the nature of wage relations in the old system
workers will have to continue class struggle, it's a struggle afterall and not a PMC board meeting or personal grievance airing
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the state & legitimizing authority is simply the state... it's like the firmament fixed & eternal
labor is rehabilitating for capitalists who never did labor before, that's the point. it's not about punishment, it's about serving the community & removing class distinctions... i didn't say they would toil endlessly without reprieve
it's not illegal to criticize the government, it's illegal to incite violence against the larger community
the state protects workers from the market in the ideal social democratic model.
the state oppresses the exploiters in the ideal socialist model
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no one was killed for criticizing the government in USSR lol, I don't know what you're talking about
Usually, it was for protesting the government's policy of redistribution by exterminating all the jews in the village with a shovel!
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Here is all the contemporary working class POV on Trotsky . William Hearst and other fascists loved him as a cudgel against USSR.
The working class thought he was an enemy!
Heck, Trostky was the ultimate cuck. This woman literally slept with him yet she chose Stalin over him! Check out her Stalin portrait! Image
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No, raising a daughter is.
I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for other men.
Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to ravage her every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her.
As a man who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically.
oh you mean Trotsky who literally sought help from fascist Japan & NS Germany was rooted out by actual Mexican communists who knew how dastardly and underhanded he was being?
Trotsky is an anti-communist figure lol
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Zinoviev and Bukharin admitted guilt lol
Tukhachevsky was plotting against the state, what's wrong with you?
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It's true
Kamenev and Zinoviev and Bukharin were convicted criminals, believe all the sob stories you want to
Mensheviks were not comrades, they were bourgeois fancy lads
Trotsky sought help from NS Germany and fascist Japan
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"Show" trials = Public trials. Not "fake trials"
they're actual trials with actual evidence and actual witnesses
only anti-USSR propaganda calls them "show trials", because it's literal Western anti-USSR propaganda
but sure, the Western imperialist's propaganda is completely without issue
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no, you're just not actually providing any evidence to your case, and only mentioned a source that literally exaggerates beyond recognition
you know that Western Sovietology is built around exaggeration and caricature and demonization, and yet you still accept all of its premises?
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okay, idiot
you're deflecting again
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and you have nothing here
you're just bleating out anti-communist nonsense every chance you get
and I personally think it's pathetic and abusive to be on a radical left forum and only spew anti-communist canards
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okay, that's why you keep responding i guess?
why don't you actually come up with evidence or sources, or a counter-argument, or at least some sort of analytical framing rather than just remain set in your propagandized anti-communist ways?
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okay, cope more
not sure what you think you're doing here whining about "USSR bad" as though that's a legitimate take at all
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you're the reactionary & counterrevolutionary idiot who regurgitates anti-communist lies & exaggerations
so that's abusive in and of itself, but I'm not going to pretend to be personally affronted by your ignorance
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cry more about it I guess? or clutch pearls?
makes no real difference to me
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you're the one who acts in bad faith and never actually supports any of your positions
not sure why you're even here if you're just so offended and disrespected on a fundamental level lol
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okay, then walk away lol
not sure why that's hard for you
The Moscow trials are public record. Feel free to examine the evidence and the court transcripts yourself. They have been translated into every imaginable language.
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Defined by Capitalists? I would highly recommend that you read some gramsci on hegemony!
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Read the transcripts. I promise you they were neither tortured nor was the confession forced. After the prosecutor proved each point, some of them confessed in hopes of manipulating the soviets. Also, I bet you never learned about the derailed trains or the miners who suffocated to death. THe difference is that in capitalist America, the supervisor at the mine gets to be free and run for the Senate. In the USSR, the workers themselves headed the investigation committee and did such a thorough investigation that they found the plot. Then, mostly it was people snitching on others in hopes of leniency, but because the USSR was a worker state, the people were like "F this shit" and they got no leniency.
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