Sure it won’t look like that. Productive forces are already developed! Unless of course the state have shipped manufacturing abroad and subsists on vaporware and imperial might to trade for said useful goods 🤔
Edit: ohh nice site, it’s less bad than I thought tbh.
Yes but many people here still stan the asthetics of the SU hard and then call the SU (true) socialism and it's not to difficult to see how that turns people towards the liberal propaganda that says every socialism will look like the SU.
There is no reason why any country should completely pull off of any and all trade instantly, it's not a good idea and neither is it helpful for anyone.
I’m not saying pull off all trade, I’m saying sans military threats and desire for equitable world a lot of shit would get expensive really fast (rare earth materials, clothes, anything with a shitton of labor produced in global south) and a lot of shit conversely would become extremely cheap: software, medical patents, finance industry commissions, things that don’t have constant labor value or maintenance level of it
But fr usa can obviously produce enough food and concrete for itself, but can it produce enough clothes, other building materials, steel, nickel, cobalt with factories as they currently are?
I’ll have to refresh my memory on the import/export balances info and employment figures, maybe I was mistaken, but it was quite obscene disbalance without service exports
The means of production can be easily (re)placed in the US, or Europa and since a revolution would cancel all the bullshit jobs there would be plenty of manpower for them. Also stuff like textil or chemical industries can almost be fully automated today.
It is perfectly possible. Germany is a country that still exports a lot of high value consumer goods and machinery and otherwise it's a perfectly simple western country.
Textile as in bulk commodity of course, us produces a shitton of cotton, but I’m talking specifically clothes/shoes, shit like that, that have not been automated, labor intensive stuff.
Sure it won’t look like that. Productive forces are already developed! Unless of course the state have shipped manufacturing abroad and subsists on vaporware and imperial might to trade for said useful goods 🤔
Edit: ohh nice site, it’s less bad than I thought tbh.
Yes but many people here still stan the asthetics of the SU hard and then call the SU (true) socialism and it's not to difficult to see how that turns people towards the liberal propaganda that says every socialism will look like the SU.
There is no reason why any country should completely pull off of any and all trade instantly, it's not a good idea and neither is it helpful for anyone.
I’m not saying pull off all trade, I’m saying sans military threats and desire for equitable world a lot of shit would get expensive really fast (rare earth materials, clothes, anything with a shitton of labor produced in global south) and a lot of shit conversely would become extremely cheap: software, medical patents, finance industry commissions, things that don’t have constant labor value or maintenance level of it
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I’m too afraid to look if that sub is real tbh.
But fr usa can obviously produce enough food and concrete for itself, but can it produce enough clothes, other building materials, steel, nickel, cobalt with factories as they currently are?
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I’ll have to refresh my memory on the import/export balances info and employment figures, maybe I was mistaken, but it was quite obscene disbalance without service exports
The means of production can be easily (re)placed in the US, or Europa and since a revolution would cancel all the bullshit jobs there would be plenty of manpower for them. Also stuff like textil or chemical industries can almost be fully automated today. It is perfectly possible. Germany is a country that still exports a lot of high value consumer goods and machinery and otherwise it's a perfectly simple western country.
Textile as in bulk commodity of course, us produces a shitton of cotton, but I’m talking specifically clothes/shoes, shit like that, that have not been automated, labor intensive stuff.