• takoyaki [any]
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    4 years ago

    well... i’m gonna use an extreme case here and say that in stuff like weightlifting, there is definitely a difference in a female competing and a male competing, even with performance enhancing drugs involved. so yes, there is a difference. now in sports, the difference may be less pronounced but I would say it’s still there.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It's about a 10% difference on average for most activities, higher for strength-based stuff and lower for other activities. What's interesting though is that when an AMAB person goes on HRT their performance drops to well within the range of cis female athletes, and some cis female athletes naturally have testosterone levels that are well within the range of cis male athletes, so dividing competition between AMAB and AFAB seems like a somewhat arbitrary way to do it.

      • InnuendOwO [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        What’s interesting though is that when an AMAB person goes on HRT their performance drops to well within the range of cis female athletes

        Yep. For those unaware - studies vary on exactly how long this takes, but they all pin it at some time between 1 year and 3 years on HRT. There's a reason the olympics have allowed trans competitors as long as they've been on HRT for 4 years, yet we've never seen a trans competitor, but yet we see doping scandals every year, so clearly people will do whatever it takes to win. Most figures pin it at about 0.6% of the population is trans, so from that, we should have seen 1-2 trans competitors from Canada alone in the 2018 olympics. We saw zero. From any country.

        "BUT WHAT ABOUT MY SPORTS!!!!!!" is blatant transphobic fearmongering that, while it may sound reasonable on its face, is absolutely fucking absurd the second you look into it. Transphobes are hoping you don't look into it, so they can sneak this past us and start getting a moral justification for eliminating trans people from society entirely. "Well, we already treat them differently on a legal basis in sports, what more is making laws that treat them differently in X?" is not a thing we can let happen.