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  • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The problem is that a floor vote is meaningless as long as everyone knows that the Senate will block this. If Dems have 50 Senate votes + VP, then go for it and demand that it is put in a bigger reconciliation bill that needs only 50 Senate votes.

      • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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        4 years ago

        There's already a long long list of Dems who oppose M4A to primary. The cosponsors will vote Yes to get off that lost bit will turn against it later if they actually get power. What's going to be gained?

      • kilternkafuffle [any]
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        4 years ago

        Good!! Let him veto it. It'll show people who he is. Then when he nominates some fuck like Kamala as his heir, the NEW "most progressive candidate ever" more voters will know that they're all full of shit.

        Obama didn't just lose the left with the ACA and bank bailouts with no strings attached - he lost his shine with the Democratic base as well. Not everyone notices that they're being fucked, but some do - and the more you shine a light on it the more pressure there is for change.

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          4 years ago

          Obama would have left office with a negative approval rating if not for Trump clowning around.

          He was in the negatives a year into his first term and his 40% for a bit towards the end of his second year.

          Biden isn't even going to last that long. Disaster of a president.

        • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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          4 years ago

          It does not look like Democrats are ending the fillibuster, meaning M4A would need 10 GOP Senate votes to reach Biden

      • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Forcing Biden to veto M4A would be awesome. But letting M4A just die in GOP-controlled Congress is pointless.