With the membership approaching 100k, and with the structure of the organization being democratic and up for revision given a strong enough push from the internal caucuses, why are there still unaffiliated american socialists?
I think the predominate view on this website is that DSA is a monolithic organization that is simply full of radlibs and social democrats or democratic socialists, however the richness of the caucuses and the amount of local marxist caucuses which are attempting to reform the DSA is in my opinion largely ignored here.
The Democratic Socialists of America is *our* organization as socialists of america and if you critique it without affiliating yourself and without acting to change it, than what are you truly doing? It is definitely one of the twelve types of liberalism for you criticize in private but not to the collective itself. Problems you have with the DSA from your critical perspective should be brought up every month at your local general meeting. Critique from outside the organization, as if you were not a socialist, is not going to affect change.
tl;dr: as a chapo who didn’t join DSA for years bc of the stigma here calling them radlibs, i ask of you, why are you seriously not in the DSA. for if you don’t like it, then join and act in the oppositional caucuses; and if you do like it but just haven’t joined, then come on comrade follow suit.
edit: This struggle session has been quite bountiful I will say. We have learned that there are three instances in the DSA's constitution that allow for (1) the expulsion of members that are under the discipline of democratic-centralist organizations (2) local charters will be revoked if the majority of members become under the discipline of democratic-centralism and that (3) local youth charters will be revoked if majority of members become. dem-cent.
here's some of the marxist and communist caucuses in DSA
https://communistcaucus.com
https://reformandrevolution.org
https://breadandrosesdsa.org
https://classunity.org
https://twitter.com/revpower_dsa
https://dsaemerge.org
https://redstarsf.org
https://redcaucus.org
E: also since this person is spamming this link everywhere and i know half the people upvoting it havent even read past the headline i'll leave this dsa forums discussion on it here too if anyone wants to read through it more because while i like the grayzone and Ben and Blumenthal overall i think this article is largely disingenuous in its framing and this person is completely incoherent in their posts claiming shit like "all dsa leaders are taking funding from the NED" and other ridiculous shit, which probably means they didnt even read the article themselves.
Why does a small organization of 70,000 socialists have EIGHT different groups of marxists trying to push it left? Like jesus christ, why dont they all merge? They have the same goal right?
The first 4 work on different things mostly, one is a ydsa caucus, and 3 are local caucuses.
All components of the synthetic imperialist western left
lol ok
Why do you hold conferences with pro-regime change speakers and funding from the NED?
cause western socialists are cringe
PSL isn’t cringe. Join them instead and stop being a DSA chauvinist
lol i didnt even talk about my ideologies do you even know what the word chauvinist means?
I’m talking about social-chauvinists as Lenin described them. Social reformist nationalists and imperialists. Socialism for me, imperialism and colonialism for thee. The lack of international proletarian solidarity in favor of opportunistic short—term reforms. The tendency that makes up DSA at its very core.
There's people with different ideologies in dsa you understand that right? Calling someone a chauvinist without knowing their beliefs is incoherent.
Doesn’t matter, the DSA is not a dem cent organization so it’s composition is not that relevant. What’s relevant is it’s actions and leadership, both of which are social-chauvinist, anti-communist and imperialist. They are NED funded, literal feds.
Not being a dem cent org means its composition IS what is relevant, jfc the "leadership" is appointed by the constituency, theres several literal communists on the NPC. Please learn about the real world and the things around you stop living vicariously through online memes. This kind of childish online shit i wont ever take seriously, you people need to log off more.
Membership composition matters when the organization is not democratic? 🤔
Why are you NED funded? Why do you have pro-regime change speakers at official DSA conferences invited to speak by the DSA to speak to its impressionable audience of radlibs? 🤔
Why do you keep defending this? 🤔
DSA is not democratic? you literally dont even know how the org works. That article speaks about one person affiliated with one branch of DSA lol this is so stupid, grow up with this shit. I don't defend any shitty thing DSA does, theres continual change pushed in the org. Learn about the things you're outraged about.
No they are not dem cent
Jacobin magazine’s owner and all of the leadership of the DSA are all in the tank with NED funding and imperialism. All of them. Why are you trying to salvage this piece of shit that’s just as bad and just as anti-communist as the Democratic Party?
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It’s naive radlibs and social chauvinists like you that fill /r/PCM and leftoid subreddits. Stop projecting your cringe into others
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https://imgur.com/y6Njm7P
Leaders: all literally take NED funding and push pro-American lines
You: wow way to connect dots that aren’t there you loony lefty!!
this is deranged lol which leaders are you referring to? the npc? you literally havent even read the entire article you linked have you?
I don't think you understand what democratic centralism means. Emphasis on the CENTRALISM part. The DSA isn't undemocratic, it is not CENTRALIST. Which is not necessarily always a good thing but it may be, for now, and it also means that the composition absolutely does matter because there is hardly a strong central direction, and there is a LOT of wiggle room. Like, literally the article you posted brings this up.