Like sure snakes look nice but i would be really fucked up if i had to give it a living or dead rat every half a week or so. Only reason im not vegan is cos of that thin layer of separation between what i eat and the animal it came from, so i dont feel awful everytime i eat, do yall not feel any of that?

  • TankieTanuki [he/him]
    2·
    4 years ago

    animals eat each other. it does suck

    Totally irrelevent when the topic is live-feeding. No one is saying that snakes should eat celery.

    • AliceBToklas [she/her]
      1·
      4 years ago

      why do you care whether the mouse was killed by the snake vs in a small semi-industrial setting a few hundred miles away and frozen?

      • PhaseFour [he/him]
        3·
        4 years ago

        Analyzing the ethics of how snakes eat in the wild is absolutely deranged.

        • TankieTanuki [he/him]
          1·
          4 years ago

          We're talking about animals kept in captivity. Nobody can control what animals do in the wild.

          • PhaseFour [he/him]
            ·
            4 years ago

            I’ve never done it but like, animals eat animals in the wild all the time. Lots of animals literally can’t not eat meat, if it’s their diet than it’s their diet. I wouldn’t want to watch it either but I can’t really shame nature for being nature.

            i still cry myself to sleep about it every once in a while, but i cant really get animals to follow or understand human morality

            This is the comment thread we are under. I don't know what you are talking about, but this is explicitly about wild animals, and projecting human morality onto them.

            • TankieTanuki [he/him]
              ·
              4 years ago

              Okay, I understand now. I thought you were referring to my comment about using pre-killed prey for pet snakes.

              • PhaseFour [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                No, I agree with that. Owning an un-domesticated animal is already bad. Feeding them a live rat does not solve that problem.

                Edit: oh, I am under-neath the wrong comment. I understand the confusion. Sorry!

      • TankieTanuki [he/him]
        5·
        4 years ago

        Because asphyxiation by strangulation is one of the most violent ways to die, whereas carbon dioxide any method of euthanasia is humane by comparison.

        http://www.anapsid.org/prekill2.html

        Contrary to what many people believe, a constricting snake does not crush its prey to death; rather, the snake will tighten its coils every time the prey animal exhales, which squeezes the prey's chest tighter and tighter until it can no longer inhale and smothers.

        • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
          1·
          4 years ago

          whereas carbon dioxide

          nooooooope

          Did you mean carbon monoxide or nitrogen or something? The sensation of suffocation is entirely due to CO2 dissolving into your blood.

          Suffocating something with CO2 would literally be torture (I'm pretty sure it's been used as a form of torture, by supplying enough O2 the person never passes out)

          • TankieTanuki [he/him]
            ·
            4 years ago

            Yes, nitrogen is better, but CO2 is still better than strangulation, because strangulation still involves the sensation CO2 dissolving into your blood (plus additional terrors).