• PhaseFour [he/him]
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    The process of automating trucking hitting road-blocks right now because the mass communication between automated vehicles is a necessary component to automation. Industry leaders understand this fact. [1] [2].

    The Department of Transportation has identified 5G has a necessary component to the automation of trucking in the US [3].

    Every single business journal and newspaper has been salivating over the fully automated factories China & South Korea is developing right now, which required 5G [4] [5] [6] [7].

    Don't spout nonsense. "Oh, haha you just download things faster lol" Eat shit, this will be a huge blow to organized labor.

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      What you are describing isn't the "Internet of Things". At least it isn't what they market as the internet of things. Trucking automation is a much different subject from robots in manufacturing, or dumbass internet of things.

      Eat shit, this will be a huge blow to organized labor.

      You're just doing 21st century ludditism now. It's never worked and it never will, especially now.

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            robots in manufacturing are already “enabled” and used very, very widely.

            Not nearly to the degree that exists in 5G enabled

            it is basically struggle against the inevitable

            This is not true. There is tangible proof of workers struggling against automation. Workers should continue to struggle against automation until we have a socialist state.

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              Not nearly to the degree that exists in 5G enabled

              Robots? In manufacturing? For most tasks they don't really even need any internet.

              This is not true. There is tangible proof of workers struggling against automation. Workers should continue to struggle against automation until we have a socialist state.

              That some groups of workers struggle against automation doesn't mean it's not inevitable. What always happens in the best case is that they convince some board to block it for a few years and then when that's done, then the change happens anyways. It just stalls the transition, it doesn't block it.

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                Robots? In manufacturing? For most tasks they don’t really even need any internet.

                The communication between robots does require a network.

                What always happens in the best case is that they convince some board to block it for a few years and then when that’s done, then the change happens anyways.

                This is the case for any reform under capitalism. The whole fucking point of organizing to win reforms under capitalism to demonstrate to workers we represent them.

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                  The communication between robots does require a network.

                  But that's not even strictly necessary for most robots in manufacturing.

                  The whole fucking point of organizing to win reforms under capitalism to demonstrate to workers we represent them.

                  That much I can agree with.

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                    But that’s not even strictly necessary for most robots in manufacturing.

                    It is necessary for fully automated factories.

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      Automation is good and we should respond to it by acknowledging most people don't need to work, and the remaining work can be divided into smaller pieces done by more people

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        Cool, so we just ask the owners of Capital very very nicely to share.

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          Okay, you keep fighting. Keep fighting the same battle again and again knowing that they can just keep attacking and you can only lose once.

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            You are talking about someone's employment and their union.

            "Keep fighting for a wage and a union, you'll lose eventually 🤗 " very cool take, I love supporting labor.

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        In order for automated fleets to become a feature on our roads, onboard safety software will need to be able to receive uninterrupted data from sensors which provide real-time analysis of road conditions and behavior of other drivers. The advent of 5G could usher in minimized latency and constant connectivity. Not only will onboard safety systems receive uninterrupted data, but autonomous fleets will be connected to other vehicles on the road. With the adoption of 5G, vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V) communication becomes a real possibility. Each vehicle on the road would share data on speeds, traffic and routes, essentially making every autonomous truck in the fleet aware of its own surroundings.

        Can you please read the articles I posted. It's literally freight capitalists describing their limitations.