• anthm17 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It's a losing struggle. automation is progress and you can't fight it for forever.

    I'm not saying you're wrong to try I'm saying that strategically we should acknowledge automation will come and we should act accordingly.

    • PhaseFour [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      automation is progress

      What do you mean by this? How is it progressive to throw millions of people out of work?

      • anthm17 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Well under the current system it's just capitalism advancing and horrible, I don't disagree. I'm saying we should push for changing the system. Increasing automation should mean we demand lowered expectations of work and distribute the remaining work more evenly without cratering wages.

        and it's also progress in the sense that it's inevitable under capitalism.

        • PhaseFour [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Increasing automation should mean we demand lowered expectations of work and distribute the remaining work more evenly without cratering wages.

          Sure. That is not what it means under capitalism. It means unemployment. Unless you are offering a concrete plan to overthrow capitalism, you should support workers' struggles against automation.

          it’s also progress in the sense that it’s inevitable under capitalism

          So is poverty, climate change, war, etc. I would not call those things "progress."

      • anthm17 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        invented technology is going to be used though.