I always feel like I'm hanging out in a punk/hardcore music scene (various anarchist groups, psl to some extent) or with lame improv nerds (dsa). I don't see either of these groups connecting with very many working class people. This is obviously a huge problem but (at least where I am) there is very little attempt to organize or recruit people making minimum wage, fast food workers, service industry, manual laborers etc. I mean shouldn't this be the main priority right now? I don't know I'm just venting but I'm baffled by how bad at organizing these groups are. Do they really just like being this cliquey group that is hard to get into and that's what really matters?
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Wait so do you make 7.25 or nah?
The fact they they didn't come back to answer your question is funny. "Oops I outed myself as a booj lets split."
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The term they used is 'I earn minimum wage', what does that term mean motherfucker
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Not that it isn't relevant what their field is, since the implication is probably that they have plenty opportunity to increase their earnings, but regardless of what the people around them are making, if they are making minimum wage they are making minimum wage (probably not federal minimum wage I am guessing). I see the mistake that you and the others are making: assuming they were talking about the 'minimum wage in their field' but that is so strange a phrase, and so contrary to all the other context clues in their post, that I am confident that it is not I, but in fact you who is the dipshit. I am willing to admit the possibility that OP is actually the dipshit for strange and misleading use of language
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Nah that would only have been the case if you had actually been saying what they all thought you were, which would've been so strange: who has ever talked about 'minimum wage' to mean like the money on the lower end of their career? Nobody ever says that and especially with the context it is to me such a bizarre interpretation. But everyone was seeing it like that, I thought I was going crazy
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Turns out I was right lmao get rekt you read it wrong I literally did not care about the OP at all besides that I got to be right when like three people were wrong. This is the best day of my life
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Ty
uhhh you sound so cringe and are proving the out of touch point. you sound like an improv kid out of touch
and I say that as someone definitely out of touch
I tried to be very careful with my language there because everyone else in this thread was demonstrating very poor reading comprension. If being better at understanding things is cringe then cringe away. This is like Christmas for me
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but you’re wrong minimum wage to literally everyone especially average joes means not at all what you are saying. if you dont make 7.25 or 13 or whatever minimum wage is in your state dont say it lmao you’re basically coming across as stealing class valor or some shit and its hilarious.
They do make the legally mandated minimum wage for their area.
then why did they phrase it that way wtf lmao i take everything back thanks for being straight forward ffs
They admitted it wasn't perfect wording but I am being so rude about this because your interpretation of their post is imo so much stranger. It isn't even so much a matter of linguistic clarity as it is treating each other with even a tiny bit of good faith. If both interpretations are equally valid (they literally aren't) then everyone chose the bad faith one and then decided to be shitty about it. Not me. I chose to think the very best of my fellow poster and be shitty to everyone else
i respect that fam, I think i saw their post saw everyone else’s response of so you don’t make minimum wage and back pedaling it to make it obscured. i own up i definitely fucked up lol how else you gunna learn 🤷
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Well I was being a little shit on purpose but yes
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I think I talked about this before when the forum was having a struggle session about the south. A lot of people equate working class with working poor and try to shoehorn themselves in the working poor's struggles just because they have a boss or they aren't PMC. Also when did people start thinking that lumpenprole = neet? Living off of your parents in a suburb does not make someone a lump.
Edit: needed to add more words.
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Which is another reason the American left aren't connecting with the broader public.
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Lol so you make like 50k a year?
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The way you wrote it made it seem like you were way higher than that lol
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Yeah you're good. I asked way back before all the hostile stuff was coming around in this thread, I didn't mean it particularly insultingly.
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All good, sucks to have to be on the defensive like that.
No it didn't you just can't read
The fucks wrong with you?
I was born with a tragic inability to be wrong on the internet
I'm so sorry you've overcome so much
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And they're incredibly small minority living unsustainable lives. If that's the face of your movement, the rest of the working class is going to say "wow, have fun guys" at best.
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