See but i think the paint IS blue and you think it isn’t. That is the point. You can’t convince me without a reason or an argument as to why this color we both see (spanking or strangulation) is blue or not blue. We literally believe strangulation and spanking to be conditionally non-abusive activities, given consent under normal circumstances.
also if your definition of abusive activity is simply causes physical harm to the one acted upon, then is consensual sparring between comrades in MMA abusive?
Yes that’s my point, it is okay for you to personally not like BDSM bc you view it as abusive. However it is not okay for you to universalize that and say it is true for everyone and then to gaslight those that disagree with you into thinking their potentially loving and good relationship might in fact be abusive.
So how are comrades to train martial arts? Perhaps your definition of abuse is too idealistic to account for situations of physical harm that are 1) consensual 2) necessary for training and 3) generally regarded as non-abusive
Sometimes i catch myself being too confident in my definitions of things and then find myself in the same situation you are. It happens to the best of us, and there’s no shame as long as we progress forward towards more dialectically advanced definitions of things.
See but i think the paint IS blue and you think it isn’t. That is the point. You can’t convince me without a reason or an argument as to why this color we both see (spanking or strangulation) is blue or not blue. We literally believe strangulation and spanking to be conditionally non-abusive activities, given consent under normal circumstances.
also if your definition of abusive activity is simply causes physical harm to the one acted upon, then is consensual sparring between comrades in MMA abusive?
And i believe that we have different definitions for the word Abuse.
Yes that’s my point, it is okay for you to personally not like BDSM bc you view it as abusive. However it is not okay for you to universalize that and say it is true for everyone and then to gaslight those that disagree with you into thinking their potentially loving and good relationship might in fact be abusive.
also so under your definition is MMA abusive?
Yeah, sports where you beat eachother are toxic and abusive.
So how are comrades to train martial arts? Perhaps your definition of abuse is too idealistic to account for situations of physical harm that are 1) consensual 2) necessary for training and 3) generally regarded as non-abusive
Fair
Sometimes i catch myself being too confident in my definitions of things and then find myself in the same situation you are. It happens to the best of us, and there’s no shame as long as we progress forward towards more dialectically advanced definitions of things.