Only Felix had a few good words for it - the rest retreated into lame doomed crap as though it’s only theatre.

Fuck that! Make Pelosi sweat! Fuck shit up and push hard now, while public support for M4A is peaking.

    • ColinInk [any]
      3·
      4 years ago

      Forcing a vote on M4A is absolutely a strategy of gaining and wielding power, even if it loses first time.

      Some of America’s best laws lost the first time they were voted on.

      A loss is not a failure.

      Playing nice with Pelosi is a failing strategy.

    • ColinInk [any]
      5·
      4 years ago

      Btw, it’s not about Jimmy Dore

        • ColinInk [any]
          2·
          4 years ago

          No. It’s not about him.

            • ColinInk [any]
              ·
              4 years ago

              I don’t care if JD is upset.

              I care if American Lefties can grab an opportunity when it’s there.

                • ColinInk [any]
                  2·
                  4 years ago

                  The height of liberal politics is defeatist bullshit from lefties, makes lefties no threat at all.

                    • ColinInk [any]
                      3·
                      4 years ago

                      Stomping your feet and screaming might be more productive than “Yes Ms Pelosi, of course Ms Pelosi, three money bags full Ms Pelosi”.

                      Especially when you campaign to get the 80% who support M4A to stomp their feet and scream with you.

                        • ColinInk [any]
                          1·
                          4 years ago

                          Now is the time to stomp your feet and scream.

                          Alas, all I can do is cheer you on from the other side of the world.

                        • ColinInk [any]
                          3·
                          4 years ago

                          What? You’re above learning from your enemies’ successes?

                            • ColinInk [any]
                              3·
                              4 years ago

                              Granted. You won a small rhetorical point and will never get M4A.

                                • ColinInk [any]
                                  1·
                                  4 years ago

                                  I agree. You will never get Medicare For All if you never fight for it. Is that meaningless?

                                    • ColinInk [any]
                                      ·
                                      4 years ago

                                      A war can be fought on multiple fronts.

                                      A first vote loss would not be the end. It need not damage other efforts.

                                        • ColinInk [any]
                                          ·
                                          4 years ago

                                          And if I said sure, you’re right - then all would be well.

                                          Those arduous efforts to develop M4A policy and devise transition and calculate costings and design ways to massage public acceptance - given that many ‘good’ jobs will be lost in healthcare insurance companies in swing states - I applaud all that work.

                                          I just don’t see how it somehow is destroyed by forcing a vote on the house floor.

                                • ColinInk [any]
                                  1·
                                  4 years ago

                                  I see how well expressed is your exasperation.

                                  I feel the same way about you.