Obviously excluding like Hitler, that’s a gimme.

Can be a good or a bad person.

My vote goes to Churchill or Reagan. Absolutely ignorant people of history.

  • NeoAnabaptist [any]
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    4 years ago

    I wasn't online until two or three years after that, but yeah you're right. One reason might be that I feel like Dawkins fans grew away from him whereas Hitchens had this punkishness to him that made him stick a bit better. Also he died early enough that his biggest gaffes (dear god do you remember "women will never be funny"?) never caught up to cancel him.

    I would say though, Dawkins and Hitchens were both equally New Atheists at the time even if Dawkins was the bigger pop star.

    • MirrorMadness [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      One reason might be that I feel like Dawkins fans grew away from him whereas Hitchens had this punkishness to him that made him stick a bit better. Also he died early enough that his biggest gaffes

      I fully agree with you here, I think Dawkins' incredible uncharisma + his number of public appearances undid him, but he is the guy who created Sargon, et al. As someone who briefly affiliated themselves with the Atheism movement, I always found Hitchens' writings to be threadbare and infrequent compared to Dawkins, who wrote voluminously on one of his great points of obsession. In 2006, I wanted to like Hitchens because I was told he was Cool, but always found him hard to grasp.

      I think you're right though, if he lived even two years longer that punkishness would be 0.