bonus points if you get banned for sharing it

i'll start: most "vote blue no matter who" liberals are actually good people (not including terminally online liberals as anyone who is terminally online is a bad person)

    • Wheaties [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Religion is often the only remaining space for a shared sense of community and culture, in a world that is increasingly being reduced to crass market relations.

      The USA has a particularly abhorrent strain of Christianity, please don't judge all of religion for it.

        • Dolores [love/loves]
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          1 year ago

          I am genuinely confused as to why defending it seems to be the most popular stance here

          a) not harassing the few religious users

          b) imagining a targeted minority on the end of every criticism, instead of the prosecutors. like it's technically correct that 'christian' is a characteristic shared between MLK and a baptist minister calling for lgbt genocide from the pullpit, but it's a bit dishonest to act like socialists are talking about the former types when yelling about christians.

          c) sometimes people say incorrect things in criticism of christianity, and we've a heady collection of pedants that dunk on that. i don't think it really counts as 'defense', but anyway

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          I mean that sincerely, I am genuinely confused as to why defending it seems to be the most popular stance here. I can not understand that

          As a fellow religion hater for the exact same reasons as you, it might help to seek out a different perspective and talk to people from different walks of life. There are plenty of Christian gay/queer people, there are plenty of people who lived under colonialism and neocolonialism that are Christian. They managed to square the circle in a different way to us religion haters, and it's worth listening to their perspective.

            • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              there is no way to square that circle without lying to yourself and having cognitive dissonance,

              Yeah for you and me, that is true. For them, it is not. Otherwise they'd also leave their religion like us. That's what I mean by listening to other people's perspectives. Openly Christian gay people clearly think there is nothing in their religion that requires them to discriminate against themselves, and it's interesting to listen to why they believe that. Maybe they believe certain bible verses are taken out of context, that old testament laws don't matter anymore, or who knows, maybe something else. I don't know because I'm not religious.

      • ilyenkov [she/her, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Religion is often the only remaining space for a shared sense of community and culture

        And our goal is to create a new world, where that isn't the case. Not to try to cling to whatever pre-capitalist fragments we can.

      • yoink [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        this isn't exactly unique to the USA and it isn't unique to Christianity either, let alone the USA prosperity flavour of it