China’s share of global GDP has increased from 3.6% in 2000 to 17.8% in 2019 and will continue to grow, the CEBR said. It would pass the per capita threshold of $12,536 (£9,215) to become a high-income country by 2023.
absolutely insane
China’s share of global GDP has increased from 3.6% in 2000 to 17.8% in 2019 and will continue to grow, the CEBR said. It would pass the per capita threshold of $12,536 (£9,215) to become a high-income country by 2023.
absolutely insane
I mean, never say never, but I don't see America wanting to start a war with China. Oh, they'll ramp up efforts to cause internal divisions to 11; but I don't know if war is realistically on the table ever
Dude, every single US think tank has been saying "war with China" day-in and day-out since Obama's "Pivot to Asia"
But it's like as Cuttlefish said:
So if it's obviously suicidal to even us internet posters, the ruling class have to know this too. And if it's obviously suicidal with no hope of success, why do it?
Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan both launched their wars because they calculated that they were currently at their peak and every month they waited they would give their enemies time to leverage their superior economy to rearm and overtake.
A similar logic might also take hold in US policy circles.
That is a possibility, but the US will have to slide into fascism further for that to happen I think, looking at the US wars on Vietnam, Iraq and the existence of nuclear deterrence I think circumstances are absolutely different.
The existence of Nukes is a big differentiator, true.
However, that doesn't rule out the possibility of a grave miscalculation. Both Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan thought that the USSR and US would kneel over and give up if they were hit hard enough and fast enough, which absolutely turned out to be untrue.
I wouldn't want to put it past some idiot Hawk to think that "the Chinese people will greet us as liberators" or some shit.
that's a possibility for sure, americans on reddit love advocating for nuking shit
I bet they think US missile defenses actually work.
Boy, are they in for about 300 mushroom cloud shaped surprises.
The US could use conventional weapons against key Chinese infrastructure like the 3 gorges dam. War with China means a lot of people die needless deaths, but I doubt the US can pull it off after making such a mess with COVID. They are now having their own citizens bomb telephone hubs. There is too much domestic strife to launch a war, Japan is too old to go into war, Taiwan is small, Vietnam has no power projection and South Korea has no interest in starting a fight with China. We are probably just going to see an escalation of a trade war to try and curb Chinese growth till the population curve from the one child policy catches up and puts China into Japan’s current situation and everyone pivots towards the emerging African powers threatening Europe and the new power player Indonesia.
China could theoretically bring in as many immigrants as it wants to solve the age issue.
I really don’t think they will. They have expressed a negative interest in immigration making it a harder country to move to than Switzerland or Japan.
Destroying infrastructure like the dam is a war crime and it would be realy stupid to go down that path because of examples like this. The US is one hacking campaign away from losing most of its modern infrastructure.
And ww2 taught us that no one gives a shit about war crimes once the war is relatively far along. They don’t start out doing them because that would be dishonorable but by the end everyone was doing absolutely horrible things to each other.
Yeah but nukes didn't exist back then. And the US can't realistically nuke China without Russia firing back at the US. They're not allies, but nuking nearby would provoke a retaliation.
I mean, China has enough of its own nukes that they could wipe out the US Western Seaboard, SK, Japan, The Pacific bases, and probably Australia if they were stupid enough to join the US.
China would need Russian nukes to also fire in order to successfully penetrate US missile defense.
I don't think that's even theoretically true (meaning all the defenses work) now that China has MIRVs
It's all theoretically. None of this stuff has actually been tested on a real target. The pendulum may swing back in China's favor in this aspect once they develop the necessary tech
just wanted a shorthand way to say "if all the defenses work", probably wasn't the best choice
You nailed it bruv, fuckin crushed it innit?
idgi
I doubt US missile defence's ability to shoot down a single rusty R7, let alone a modern ICBM. They no longer have the nuclear-tipped ABMs and there's maybe 15 GMDs and an Aegis system or two in the flightpath at best.
China could probably launch ~30-50 nukes immediately, and more with an hour's notice which is more than enough to wipe out SF, LA and Seattle even with current ABM systems warned and ready.
And of course they're about to roll out their new MIRV system which will really fuck the US.
Has US Missile Defense ever successfully defended against a missile?
I've always heard the tech described as "shooting a bullet with a bullet from the back of another bullet". And the number of "failed test" stories dotted the news for decades.
That's before we get into the fact that we've never really been in a shooting war with another high tech state.
Yeah but Russia + China guarantees total destruction.
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