My personal experience with DSA locals is that any behavior that the leadership disagrees with, regardless of member support, is "abuse" if you rock the boat and push on, rather than take the hint and drop it, so yeah, this tracks.
I also know some people in others who report similar experiences.
About 3/4ths of the people I know who are currently burnt out are burnt out because of intraorg bullshit, not just from being willpower depleted.
One person got kicked out of theirs for admitting they listen to Cumtown.
Inb4 #NotAllLocals
Most of it is stuff I witnessed happen to other members.
I was however accused of breaking rule one for trying to hold the leadership to their own bylaws and stop being exclusionary to those not in the clique. They claimed to want to know why they weren't growing. I told them why. They weren't happy.
A month or so later, I called them out for making misleading statements, and was told that by saying that because I hurt the feelings of the one non white non cis member of the leadership, that my behavior was "abusive" and "not tolerable". I literally just said that, based on what we know now, that [verbatim statement from a month ago] was incredibly misleading. That's it. No cursing. No name calling. No voice raising even. Then I got a PM that they wanted to schedule an "informal meeting" at one of their houses to "clear out the bad air" and "get on the same page". When I showed up, it consisted of the leadership literally around me in a circle of chairs, hurling criticisms. Nothing to do with the recent allegations. Just a literal struggle session.
After about five minutes I said this had nothing to do with their complaint and up and left. Literally got body checked on my way out the door.
Didn't get officially censured, though. I'm still a "member in good standing" and always was.
Before this happened, I initiated contact with someone from national about their exclusionary behavior because a)They did enough stuff like this before to establish a pattern, and b) their behavior to me and others not in the clique bordered on abusive.
That could have had something to do with why it was dropped, but I'll never know for sure.
Was still impossible to get anything done in it from then on, however.
If yours isn't a radlib cult, or headed that way, though, I'm glad for you.
My personal experience with DSA locals is that any behavior that the leadership disagrees with, regardless of member support, is "abuse" if you rock the boat and push on, rather than take the hint and drop it, so yeah, this tracks.
How many DSA locals have you had personal experience with?
Three directly.
I also know some people in others who report similar experiences.
About 3/4ths of the people I know who are currently burnt out are burnt out because of intraorg bullshit, not just from being willpower depleted.
One person got kicked out of theirs for admitting they listen to Cumtown.
Inb4 #NotAllLocals
Most of it is stuff I witnessed happen to other members.
I was however accused of breaking rule one for trying to hold the leadership to their own bylaws and stop being exclusionary to those not in the clique. They claimed to want to know why they weren't growing. I told them why. They weren't happy.
A month or so later, I called them out for making misleading statements, and was told that by saying that because I hurt the feelings of the one non white non cis member of the leadership, that my behavior was "abusive" and "not tolerable". I literally just said that, based on what we know now, that [verbatim statement from a month ago] was incredibly misleading. That's it. No cursing. No name calling. No voice raising even. Then I got a PM that they wanted to schedule an "informal meeting" at one of their houses to "clear out the bad air" and "get on the same page". When I showed up, it consisted of the leadership literally around me in a circle of chairs, hurling criticisms. Nothing to do with the recent allegations. Just a literal struggle session. After about five minutes I said this had nothing to do with their complaint and up and left. Literally got body checked on my way out the door.
Didn't get officially censured, though. I'm still a "member in good standing" and always was.
Before this happened, I initiated contact with someone from national about their exclusionary behavior because a)They did enough stuff like this before to establish a pattern, and b) their behavior to me and others not in the clique bordered on abusive.
That could have had something to do with why it was dropped, but I'll never know for sure.
Was still impossible to get anything done in it from then on, however.
If yours isn't a radlib cult, or headed that way, though, I'm glad for you.
Uhhh yeah... That's definitely a cult
good tbh
I wonder how long until listening to Chapo is unironically shamed on here. A year? Two years? It already is and I've been oblivious to it?
I've been shaming the practice since mid-summer personally
As always, I'm behind the times.
Dsa sounds pretty lib and gate keeping from what you're describing