that term is stupid because none of the things in this thread are ‘ultra left’
thank god someone said it. I fucking hate the term ultraleft for this reason.
If ‘right’ and ‘left’ are meaningful terms at all, they should refer to ‘right’ being closer to the currently established hierarchy, and the relative distance away from ‘right’, the ‘left’, then representing the degree of change away from the present society.
there's a point on the right where they're no longer trying to preserve the present society and instead reinstitute an older one, but yeah, you're generally correct.
Idk when some dork posts takes like "NATO overthinking Gaddafi and Libya was good" or "support ISIS against the west" on WSWS I'm going to dunk on them and call them ultras. At that point I don't really care anymore and I'm not going to engage past petty insults like ultra
those are nationalist takes masquerading with leftist aesthetics. a further left analysis is exactly what's needed to dismantle them. punching left to own the right is.. uhh... what?
At that point I don't care about dismantling the argument or anything. If people are seriously parroting those talking points. It's not worth the time or effort. It's not about the terms being correct or anything. Maybe that is not the correct approach but...
thank god someone said it. I fucking hate the term ultraleft for this reason.
there's a point on the right where they're no longer trying to preserve the present society and instead reinstitute an older one, but yeah, you're generally correct.
Idk when some dork posts takes like "NATO overthinking Gaddafi and Libya was good" or "support ISIS against the west" on WSWS I'm going to dunk on them and call them ultras. At that point I don't really care anymore and I'm not going to engage past petty insults like ultra
those are nationalist takes masquerading with leftist aesthetics. a further left analysis is exactly what's needed to dismantle them. punching left to own the right is.. uhh... what?
At that point I don't care about dismantling the argument or anything. If people are seriously parroting those talking points. It's not worth the time or effort. It's not about the terms being correct or anything. Maybe that is not the correct approach but...
yea, but make fun of them for being right wing... don't feed their lie that their takes are in any way left.
I mean you're obviously right and I'm being an ignorant lib. You win this time haha
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Oh Lord, don't even start.