A term taken from a Chinese proverb about opportunity in a crisis, ‘touching fish’ means being lazy at work – a philosophy China’s Generation Z workers increasingly embrace as a response to being underpaid and overworked.
This touches on something that I seldom see brought up on chapo.chat’s ceaseless China wank: it many cases, it sucks to be a worker in China, well beyond the ways in which it sucks here in the US.
It’s not just that they work hard, they work way beyond the optimal times for peak productivity, so I don’t even see how it can be justified as toil in the name of building socialism, especially when people like Jack Ma (🦀🦀🦀) get to be billionaires off of that labor.
I don't know if more, but they certainly have strategic power and the party can't do anything it wants immediately. Maybe they even do have more power than the party, after all economic power is political power.
In my imaginary ideal the party would give them a month to rectify these policies and would also force them to pay reparations to workers who have been subjected to this practice.
If they don't abide GTFO
it sucks to be a worker in China, well beyond the ways in which it sucks here in the US.
Hey, even China offers state-mandated minimum time off from work, 11 public holidays, on top of whatever the employer gives. No such legally mandated guarantee in the US. Right-to-work is also a massive anti-labor practice, and it's quite common for people to work way, way more than 40 hour per week. As awful as labor practices are in China, at least work is easy to come by if you quit or are fired.
Since things have been steadily improving for all of my life for China, and steadily worsening for the west, I'd like to say they are on the right track. Western socialism is so individualistic, you think mostly about one worker at a time, but that doesn't win you anything. As a collective things are getting better, as a collective things are getting done. Nothing is gained without sacrifice. At least with China that sacrifice has made things better for all instead of just a few capitalists. They still have capitalists, like Ma, but that kind of thing has it's uses too.
Perfect socialism/ communism only exists on paper.
This touches on something that I seldom see brought up on chapo.chat’s ceaseless China wank: it many cases, it sucks to be a worker in China, well beyond the ways in which it sucks here in the US.
It’s not just that they work hard, they work way beyond the optimal times for peak productivity, so I don’t even see how it can be justified as toil in the name of building socialism, especially when people like Jack Ma (🦀🦀🦀) get to be billionaires off of that labor.
The 996 work schedule is illegal and not condoned by the party. They are working on cracking down on it
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Even if they do, there is just so much power with corporations that not that much is being done.
So, are you saying the capitalists controlling these corporations are basically more powerful than the party in present-day China?
I don't know if more, but they certainly have strategic power and the party can't do anything it wants immediately. Maybe they even do have more power than the party, after all economic power is political power.
It is a sad state of affairs.
Truly a sad state of affairs.
In my imaginary ideal the party would give them a month to rectify these policies and would also force them to pay reparations to workers who have been subjected to this practice.
If they don't abide GTFO
If they aren't wouldn't that mean the Party is willingly letting them do this? Wouldn't that be worse?
Hey, even China offers state-mandated minimum time off from work, 11 public holidays, on top of whatever the employer gives. No such legally mandated guarantee in the US. Right-to-work is also a massive anti-labor practice, and it's quite common for people to work way, way more than 40 hour per week. As awful as labor practices are in China, at least work is easy to come by if you quit or are fired.
America also has higher average work weeks than China. Americans average over 50 hours a week, which is the 2nd highest in the world, below Japan.
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Rank ahead of Australia according to whom? By what metrics? I’m skeptical.
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Since things have been steadily improving for all of my life for China, and steadily worsening for the west, I'd like to say they are on the right track. Western socialism is so individualistic, you think mostly about one worker at a time, but that doesn't win you anything. As a collective things are getting better, as a collective things are getting done. Nothing is gained without sacrifice. At least with China that sacrifice has made things better for all instead of just a few capitalists. They still have capitalists, like Ma, but that kind of thing has it's uses too.
Perfect socialism/ communism only exists on paper.