Holy shit are you right about the kool-aid drinking that some of these ghouls do. When I was promoted to supervisor in my department, another woman about four years younger than me (I guess she was like 27 at the time?) who also worked in my department was simultaneously promoted to supervisor in another department and she legit turned into a monster almost overnight. Everyone in her new department (including her!) had been unironically referring to her as "the terminator" because of how many people she would write up. She transformed from a fairly agreeable person to absolute scum within two months (or probably just revealed her true colors).
Generally I'd test the waters with other folks about the company doing shitty things and not respecting work life balance to see if they are on the same wavelength, around 20% will commiserate, 80% of the time they will either humor me or disagree. The worst part is that it seems to me that somewhere between 1/2 and 2/3 of people who get promoted to supervisory positions immediately let that tiny scrap of power go to their heads and turn into petty tyrants. Meanwhile I see my reports sticking around for five minutes past when their shifts are supposed to end and I'm like what the fuck are you still doing here, we aren't saving lives, the work will still be here in the morning.
Glad I got out of that shit hole, my new company seems better so far but I haven't even been there a month so I'm sure I'll run into some petty tyrants soon enough.
At the end of my run, someone whom I consider a friend asked me to help with a weekend project for the Director because the Director-person was too lazy to do his own shit and there was some deadline, blahblahblah. I told my friend, not doing it because my off-time is too valuable. And my friend was like, "but this is for meeeeeee. They'll promote me if this goes through."
Oh little lamb. They're never going to promote you.
She rekt herself getting that project done. Wasn't enough to pass muster. She was never promoted. Director-person is still at that place, making people miserable.
I think I went camping that weekend. It was great.
So many people were putting in like 20+ hours worth of (unpaid) overtime, working 7 days a week, etc. for years and they had absolutely nothing to show for it. Meanwhile I got a 20% raise to do significantly less work and have 70 minutes less commute time by finding a new job.
Job hopping is 100% the way to go for advancement. Companies have no reason to pay you more if they know you won't leave even though you're miserable - if you're doing above and beyond what's expected of you and not demanding a raise? That's even better for them.
Build experience, expand your skill set, work smart but not too hard, and demand more money. If they don't give it to you, don't work harder - spend that energy searching for a new job because they've already shown their hand. Most PMC folks think that they can just slave their way over any obstacle but that's not how it works.
Totally agree. I job hopped the first 5 years in my line of work. A lot.
A L O T.
Then at my last place of employment, once I was in a position where everything depended on me, I demanded more money. MGMT caved, kicking and screaming. Man, did they hate the fact that I smelled blood in the water, and it was their wounds I was feasting on. They never officially made me a manager or keyholder or whatever you want to call it, but I ran the floor. At the end of my tenure, I was working from home 95% of the time, basically doing whatever the fuck I wanted.
I still got jaded. I knew it was all bullshit. I hated it. I hated everything that was associated with "business." I hated my boss and my boss's boss. I knew they were empty vessels filled with nothing more than catch phrases and slogans. Tangent: funny how business people love to shit on pyramid scheme victims but the truth is, the difference between LuLaRoo, et al, and most places I've worked is the entry fee to get in.
The next big revelation was realizing that being "established" allowed me to opt out of the whole business scene. It can be done if you know what you're doing. But I can't go into more detail without self-doxxing.
Holy shit are you right about the kool-aid drinking that some of these ghouls do. When I was promoted to supervisor in my department, another woman about four years younger than me (I guess she was like 27 at the time?) who also worked in my department was simultaneously promoted to supervisor in another department and she legit turned into a monster almost overnight. Everyone in her new department (including her!) had been unironically referring to her as "the terminator" because of how many people she would write up. She transformed from a fairly agreeable person to absolute scum within two months (or probably just revealed her true colors).
Generally I'd test the waters with other folks about the company doing shitty things and not respecting work life balance to see if they are on the same wavelength, around 20% will commiserate, 80% of the time they will either humor me or disagree. The worst part is that it seems to me that somewhere between 1/2 and 2/3 of people who get promoted to supervisory positions immediately let that tiny scrap of power go to their heads and turn into petty tyrants. Meanwhile I see my reports sticking around for five minutes past when their shifts are supposed to end and I'm like what the fuck are you still doing here, we aren't saving lives, the work will still be here in the morning.
Glad I got out of that shit hole, my new company seems better so far but I haven't even been there a month so I'm sure I'll run into some petty tyrants soon enough.
At the end of my run, someone whom I consider a friend asked me to help with a weekend project for the Director because the Director-person was too lazy to do his own shit and there was some deadline, blahblahblah. I told my friend, not doing it because my off-time is too valuable. And my friend was like, "but this is for meeeeeee. They'll promote me if this goes through."
Oh little lamb. They're never going to promote you.
She rekt herself getting that project done. Wasn't enough to pass muster. She was never promoted. Director-person is still at that place, making people miserable.
I think I went camping that weekend. It was great.
So many people were putting in like 20+ hours worth of (unpaid) overtime, working 7 days a week, etc. for years and they had absolutely nothing to show for it. Meanwhile I got a 20% raise to do significantly less work and have 70 minutes less commute time by finding a new job.
Job hopping is 100% the way to go for advancement. Companies have no reason to pay you more if they know you won't leave even though you're miserable - if you're doing above and beyond what's expected of you and not demanding a raise? That's even better for them.
Build experience, expand your skill set, work smart but not too hard, and demand more money. If they don't give it to you, don't work harder - spend that energy searching for a new job because they've already shown their hand. Most PMC folks think that they can just slave their way over any obstacle but that's not how it works.
Totally agree. I job hopped the first 5 years in my line of work. A lot.
A L O T.
Then at my last place of employment, once I was in a position where everything depended on me, I demanded more money. MGMT caved, kicking and screaming. Man, did they hate the fact that I smelled blood in the water, and it was their wounds I was feasting on. They never officially made me a manager or keyholder or whatever you want to call it, but I ran the floor. At the end of my tenure, I was working from home 95% of the time, basically doing whatever the fuck I wanted.
I still got jaded. I knew it was all bullshit. I hated it. I hated everything that was associated with "business." I hated my boss and my boss's boss. I knew they were empty vessels filled with nothing more than catch phrases and slogans. Tangent: funny how business people love to shit on pyramid scheme victims but the truth is, the difference between LuLaRoo, et al, and most places I've worked is the entry fee to get in.
The next big revelation was realizing that being "established" allowed me to opt out of the whole business scene. It can be done if you know what you're doing. But I can't go into more detail without self-doxxing.