I've been a member of this community for about 3 years. in that time, I've gone from lib, through DSA, to something I'm comfortable calling a communist organizer. I discovered I was trans in this space and I have transitioned while posting and, in truth, I will always be fond of it for that reason. in my time here, I've made it a point to be open and share of myself as much as I can, partially because an open posture and profile helps my organizing, partially because I hate alienation, and partially in an effort to try and change this space into something welcoming for people of all genders, sexualities, races, and of differing ability. my hope has always been that by sharing freely of myself, I'd encourage others to do the same. it's in that spirit of openness that I offer this criticism of the userbase - as a whole and without reference to any particular individuals - and an explanation of why I will not be returning to this space. I encourage you all to look through my post history and attempt to understand who I am before you respond with vitriol - I have in fact done my best to make it as easy as possible.

it's ironic, I think, that what finally broke me wasn't the waves of transphobia - the truly nasty, or the insidious and subtle - that have, in the months since our pronouns struggle sessions, found their way into my inbox, the gaslighting over whether it was happening, or even the weird, harassing messages from chuds who decided I was to blame for their bans. it wasn't even the omnipresent misogyny and racism that makes this space so toxic for non-male and non-white users. nope, what broke me was two-fold.

first, the especially cishet white male audience here struggles with criticism. we laugh easily at reddit libs being blatantly racist or sexist but the community as a whole bristles at the notion that they might have work to do.

PSA: we have not won liberation. the hegemonic culture is extremely bigoted on so many axes. even if you spend a lifetime doing hard, careful introspection to root bigotry out of your hearts and minds, the very air you breathe instills it back within you. it's not a personal slight to be told you've fucked up.

in organizing spaces, we hold to a notion of accountability that attempts to raise up the voices of those harmed, especially marginalized people, in order to ensure that hegemonic cultural influences do not infiltrate our spaces and drive away the very people whose liberation we fight for - the American working class is far browner and queerer than the class reductionists pretend and to ignore those issues as predominantly cishet white male organizers, stepping into their spaces is to alienate them from the word go. this notion is utterly foreign to most of the userbase here and it leads to astonishing and bewildering defensiveness.

it is not the job of marginalized people to do emotional labor to make you okay with the fact that you've hurt them. the assumption that you are owed that labor is part of the system of oppression that makes life miserable for people you call comrade. it's the same notion as when a loved one informs you that you've hurt them - if you make it their problem to make you feel better about the fact, you're being an asshole. deal with the hurt you've caused, then deal with the feelings about yourself that having hurt someone causes within you.

this is such a core issue on this site and I've watched it drive away so many good comrades - especially, I've personally noticed, queer people, women, and people of color. I am certain that other marginalized identities are similarly driven away from this place.

please, stop defending this behavior.

please, stop engaging in it.

choose reflection, not defensiveness. you will not be made less. you will, in fact, become so much richer for the experiences and relationships that this space has the potential to foster, but that it cannot for the omnipresent toxicity.

on a more personal note, I'm also deeply frustrated with a space filled with apparent leftists that does so little organizing or any actual praxis. what does it mean to profess left politics and to engage in purely symbolic action. there is so much good and important work to be done. not all of it requires you to know and talk to people. it merely asks that you attempt to solve the problems that you yourself encounter and to share that work with as many others.

we talk endlessly about theory and which tendency is right - but just two days ago I posted a thread to collect the most useful works and so few found themselves able to contribute. someone commented to me that they thought it was the best thread they'd seen here but I was honestly disappointed. over more than a day, less than 10 users managed to even look through this site for resources to post. when I think what might have been... but we each expect someone else to do the work.

that alone would merely be irritating. but to follow that with incessant armchair speculation about the work others should do... I could never convince actual organizers to spend any time here. we joke about every one here being libs but what's the difference? what use our radicalization if all we can do is post about what other people do?

no one is coming to liberate you. we have to build the better world we claim to want. we are the only ones who can do it. it only gets done one brick at a time.

if this post offends you, whatever. I'm not reading the replies so vent all your rage.

if, on the other hand, this speaks to you, if you'd like ideas for necessary work that needs to get done, that would help real people, reach out to me on matrix. you can find me at @therivercass:chapo.chat. I am never without a list of a million different things that would make actual people's lives a little easier but that I will never have the time to get to. I promise, I only bite jackasses.

(apologies in advance to anyone that reaches out - my responses this week will be slow.)

    • gammison [none/use name]
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      Personally I don't think the site can ever be effective doing that. The only thing that works is going and joining people organizing near you. That's it. It really does require to know and talk to people. I mean I'm an active organizer of a tuition strike right now and active in my graduate workers union now and I never talk about it or other organizing on here because there's no effective organizing conversations that can take place.

      A site like this should always be your secondary or tertiary method of engaging with left politics.

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          It can, but mostly only if those conversations happen in real life. At best I can say go join your dsa local and if the local isn't good start going to national organizing trainings so it gets better. Like I (or another in the group) and some others do organizing trainings with new people for the tuition strike once a week and do one on one conversations following Jane Macleavey's union organizing guide, and that's what you have to do to get people revved up and willing to do something.

          I was planning on getting an ama going with some of YDSA national leadership on here but the admins never got back to me after awhile.

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              During this past DSA membership drive I managed to recruit like 10 people from this site and the discord to join their local chapters, so its certainly not impossible to engage people, but i think since this space is basically an open forum for everyone to just shout shit into the void it doesnt lead itself to some sort of sustained organizing capability because its not primarily a place for people to organize. Im just here to shitpost, if you take online stuff too seriously like this whole FTV you become completely removed from the reality that it just doesnt matter to the larger movement. At best we can just offer resources and educational content and motivation for people. Maybe we can have like a scheduled monthly membership drive or another pinned category just for praxis and organizing to get people to join local orgs. Convincing people to do anything at all can be challenging though lol

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              I think in the sense of giving people resources to go do stuff irl it can since that information can be hard to find if you don't know where to look but doing actions can't effectively be done and turning people into organizers can't. Even irl it takes a lot of in person contact to get someone from being a paper member to an active one. I mean the hardest thing about the tuition strike is that because of the pandemic most everything is remote (we still have some in person stuff being planned but have to go about it carefully) but still talking to people you have a real life connection to as the locus of your organizing makes it easier.

              Yeah I'll need to go around leadership and see who wants to do it since time schedules are definitely different now but it should definitely be done.

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      I wonder if even a weekly “Call to Action” would be a good starting point for chapo.chat to be more engaged with real praxis

      honestly it would be pretty cool if we used the sticky posts to direct people to engaging in real world shit/spread awareness to things we can maybe address.

    • ChuckyAirLaw [none/use name]
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      I honestly don't belive that online sites like this and twitter etc can help with organising. It's too alienating and it's designed to keep you posting. Organising happens irl. Sites like this are just for fun.

    • moonlake [he/him]
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      Someone started posting a weekly praxis thread but they quickly stopped. You could do it! BTW, I can't believe we still don't have c/praxis.

    • disco [any]
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      A weekly “call to action” post, esp if it’s featured will almost certainly just fade into white noise if it’s not being driven by organic engagement. I almost didn’t see this post because it was up in the highlighted featured posts.

      I saw a mod elsewhere in this thread saying that they underestimated how much people ignored featured posts, and I think that for me at least, it’s because I’ve been conditioned to see highlighted posts on the top of a page as advertisements. It’s like the first two google search results, or “featured posts” on Reddit.

      My brain is just programmed to ignore them, and I suspect that I’m not alone.