I've been a member of this community for about 3 years. in that time, I've gone from lib, through DSA, to something I'm comfortable calling a communist organizer. I discovered I was trans in this space and I have transitioned while posting and, in truth, I will always be fond of it for that reason. in my time here, I've made it a point to be open and share of myself as much as I can, partially because an open posture and profile helps my organizing, partially because I hate alienation, and partially in an effort to try and change this space into something welcoming for people of all genders, sexualities, races, and of differing ability. my hope has always been that by sharing freely of myself, I'd encourage others to do the same. it's in that spirit of openness that I offer this criticism of the userbase - as a whole and without reference to any particular individuals - and an explanation of why I will not be returning to this space. I encourage you all to look through my post history and attempt to understand who I am before you respond with vitriol - I have in fact done my best to make it as easy as possible.
it's ironic, I think, that what finally broke me wasn't the waves of transphobia - the truly nasty, or the insidious and subtle - that have, in the months since our pronouns struggle sessions, found their way into my inbox, the gaslighting over whether it was happening, or even the weird, harassing messages from chuds who decided I was to blame for their bans. it wasn't even the omnipresent misogyny and racism that makes this space so toxic for non-male and non-white users. nope, what broke me was two-fold.
first, the especially cishet white male audience here struggles with criticism. we laugh easily at reddit libs being blatantly racist or sexist but the community as a whole bristles at the notion that they might have work to do.
PSA: we have not won liberation. the hegemonic culture is extremely bigoted on so many axes. even if you spend a lifetime doing hard, careful introspection to root bigotry out of your hearts and minds, the very air you breathe instills it back within you. it's not a personal slight to be told you've fucked up.
in organizing spaces, we hold to a notion of accountability that attempts to raise up the voices of those harmed, especially marginalized people, in order to ensure that hegemonic cultural influences do not infiltrate our spaces and drive away the very people whose liberation we fight for - the American working class is far browner and queerer than the class reductionists pretend and to ignore those issues as predominantly cishet white male organizers, stepping into their spaces is to alienate them from the word go. this notion is utterly foreign to most of the userbase here and it leads to astonishing and bewildering defensiveness.
it is not the job of marginalized people to do emotional labor to make you okay with the fact that you've hurt them. the assumption that you are owed that labor is part of the system of oppression that makes life miserable for people you call comrade. it's the same notion as when a loved one informs you that you've hurt them - if you make it their problem to make you feel better about the fact, you're being an asshole. deal with the hurt you've caused, then deal with the feelings about yourself that having hurt someone causes within you.
this is such a core issue on this site and I've watched it drive away so many good comrades - especially, I've personally noticed, queer people, women, and people of color. I am certain that other marginalized identities are similarly driven away from this place.
please, stop defending this behavior.
please, stop engaging in it.
choose reflection, not defensiveness. you will not be made less. you will, in fact, become so much richer for the experiences and relationships that this space has the potential to foster, but that it cannot for the omnipresent toxicity.
on a more personal note, I'm also deeply frustrated with a space filled with apparent leftists that does so little organizing or any actual praxis. what does it mean to profess left politics and to engage in purely symbolic action. there is so much good and important work to be done. not all of it requires you to know and talk to people. it merely asks that you attempt to solve the problems that you yourself encounter and to share that work with as many others.
we talk endlessly about theory and which tendency is right - but just two days ago I posted a thread to collect the most useful works and so few found themselves able to contribute. someone commented to me that they thought it was the best thread they'd seen here but I was honestly disappointed. over more than a day, less than 10 users managed to even look through this site for resources to post. when I think what might have been... but we each expect someone else to do the work.
that alone would merely be irritating. but to follow that with incessant armchair speculation about the work others should do... I could never convince actual organizers to spend any time here. we joke about every one here being libs but what's the difference? what use our radicalization if all we can do is post about what other people do?
no one is coming to liberate you. we have to build the better world we claim to want. we are the only ones who can do it. it only gets done one brick at a time.
if this post offends you, whatever. I'm not reading the replies so vent all your rage.
if, on the other hand, this speaks to you, if you'd like ideas for necessary work that needs to get done, that would help real people, reach out to me on matrix. you can find me at @therivercass:chapo.chat. I am never without a list of a million different things that would make actual people's lives a little easier but that I will never have the time to get to. I promise, I only bite jackasses.
(apologies in advance to anyone that reaches out - my responses this week will be slow.)
For me, this comes down to what we think ChaCha is for. We're dispersed all over the world and many of us are in total lockdown. Organising is next to impossible for a lot of us right now, and almost all the praxis threads here are very much US-oriented.
I like being able to come on here to joke around and not face the racism and outright fascism I see on reddit. I also don't feel the need to share the praxis I do, and I'd worry about doxxing myself if I did. If we think of this site as a space for organising, that's all well and good, but there's also room for a space to decompress after a hard day's praxis.
I don't mean to be combative at all, especially because it's clear that this community can do much better when it comes to transphobia. I'm sorry to see you go, comrade.
I was thinking the same thing. There's alot of drama on this site(not counting the transphobia and racism those are serious and should be considered such) and when I see it all I can think of is what's the point. I always considered this site just a place to bs around and talk about leftist subjects. Hopefully it will inspire or help you to do meaningful change in the world but i never saw it as a site that would be specifically for that. I don't know if you ask five different users you'll get give different answers but for me personally I thought this place would be more casual and with each passing day it seems more serious than I thought it would be.
Well I'd say that 'casual' is is different for each person too, that's one of the bigger problems I think. something that could be really hurtful or painful or otherwise entirely not casual funtimes for a marginalized person could sneak right past a group of 'average' chacha posters, because they don't notice or understand. That's a problem with casual spaces when the space is intended as being a space for all, especially marginalized groups, but is dominated by a majority group like cis/het white american males. Y'know what I mean?
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wtf based, excellent post comrade :mao-clap:
This is really the core of the problems this site is having.
If it's meant to be used for hardcore organization, then it probably needs to be locked down completely and have users heavily vetted before joining, don't you think? I'm no tactics expert, but talking too openly/specifically about organizing on an open public forum seems like a bad idea to me. Generalities are good to be inspired by or to get ideas of what to do if you're not currently organizing, but beyond that I'm not sure what the site can offer in that regard as it currently exists.
I personally enjoy having a forum to browse that isn't filled to the brim with liberal/reactionary propaganda like quite literally every other aspect of my life and has people that are (sometimes) funny. I like sharing righteous anger at whatever dumb shit is happening. I like reading feel good stories about currently existing socialist projects. I like learning about some union or bail fund or cause that could use some financial support so I can donate.
I'm not really here for much else.
Having it be reddit style open season the way it is is an opsec disaster. I never thought this was gonna be a place for legit organizing, I legit though it was just like the internet equivalent of a massive left-wing bar to pick up where CTH left off and be a place where we could shoot the shit and be comfortable with ourselves
Yeah, I stuck around on the sub and now on here to just post and talk mostly about relatively inane things because the community isn't filled with absolute wankers unlike all of reddit
Yeah, same
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