Left anti-communism is counterproductive, but at the same time we have to avoid labeling good-faith criticisms of leftist projects as left anti-communism. If you oppose the death penalty in modern America, you can oppose it in modern China without being anti-communist.
The distancing and aggressiveness towards them and the grabs standings of denouncement that characterize most of the American left regarding socialist projects rejects anything like that from the get go
I don't think leftists who are overly-critical of leftist states necessarily reject that those states were genuine attempts to build something good. I think you can find honest leftists who:
Buy into propaganda like "Castro was a murderous dictator" uncritically because they've never put in the effort to research the reality of the situation, because the reality of the situation has functionally zero impact on their lives. So they write off those states because they're not relevant to, say, trying to pass Medicare for All.
Have dug into the non-propagandized reality of leftist states and still think some of the actions of those states were bad (see the death penalty example). So they write off those states because (a) they have some genuine issues with them anyway and (b) they genuinely have a much more utopian vision of a leftist future.
Have dug into the non-propagandized reality of leftist states and are making a tactical choice to write them off on the theory that re-litigating the reality of the USSR will do more harm than good to existing leftist projects.
To me, all three of these come off as ceding way too much ground to reactionaries right off the bat, but I can at least see where these leftists are coming from. And depending on what their position is that approach might be justifiable.
we have to avoid labeling good-faith criticisms of leftist projects as left anti-communism
Nah.
Cause then you'd know the channels "good faith criticisms" have to go through, democratic centralism and all and those "good faith criticisms" get reprinted literally into liberal talking points that criticize ML states from 'the left'.
DAE le China bad for death penalty????
The problem? Every ML state ever has had and has the death penalty, you are now criticizing every existing ML state and put on a pedestal the bourgeois democracies that "abolished" the death penalty but materially also extra-judicially apply it by denying medical treatment, housing, straight up execution-by-police or put away people for life for stealing/drug crimes, nevermind what they do in their little expeditions in the 3rd world.
Enough people have been quarantined for long enough to understand or at least grasp the concept of permanently incarcerating someone for a nonviolent and petty crimes in conditions far worse than "house arrest".
All while giving a foil for "NGOs" which are only non-governamental in name only to repurpose the same exact thing to criticize and undermine those states you allegedly also support.
example:
Amnesty International claims hat Mainland China executes more people than all other countries combined,
Because a Monarchy that participates in wars in the 3rd world and is part of the Imperial Core that exploits it, totally, totally cares about 'human rights'.
Left anti-communism is counterproductive, but at the same time we have to avoid labeling good-faith criticisms of leftist projects as left anti-communism. If you oppose the death penalty in modern America, you can oppose it in modern China without being anti-communist.
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I don't think leftists who are overly-critical of leftist states necessarily reject that those states were genuine attempts to build something good. I think you can find honest leftists who:
To me, all three of these come off as ceding way too much ground to reactionaries right off the bat, but I can at least see where these leftists are coming from. And depending on what their position is that approach might be justifiable.
lol
Nah.
Cause then you'd know the channels "good faith criticisms" have to go through, democratic centralism and all and those "good faith criticisms" get reprinted literally into liberal talking points that criticize ML states from 'the left'.
DAE le China bad for death penalty????
The problem? Every ML state ever has had and has the death penalty, you are now criticizing every existing ML state and put on a pedestal the bourgeois democracies that "abolished" the death penalty but materially also extra-judicially apply it by denying medical treatment, housing, straight up execution-by-police or put away people for life for stealing/drug crimes, nevermind what they do in their little expeditions in the 3rd world.
Enough people have been quarantined for long enough to understand or at least grasp the concept of permanently incarcerating someone for a nonviolent and petty crimes in conditions far worse than "house arrest".
All while giving a foil for "NGOs" which are only non-governamental in name only to repurpose the same exact thing to criticize and undermine those states you allegedly also support.
example:
Because a Monarchy that participates in wars in the 3rd world and is part of the Imperial Core that exploits it, totally, totally cares about 'human rights'.