Far-right Christian fundamentalist Adrian Zenz helped popularize claim China detained millions of Uyghur Muslims. He says he’s "led by God" on a "mission"
To be clear, in Xinjiang, as of 2017 "outward manifestations of extremism" such as, wearing a veil in public, or having an abnormal beard are banned.
The CPC is not just targeting separatists who happen to be Islamic and Uighur, they've criminalized practicing Islam and expressing Uighur ethno-cultural identity purportedly as a way of trying to target separatists.
The source is the official government news website for the Xinjiang Autonomous Region Tianshan net.
Tianshan net's archive only goes back to October 2017 and this happened in March, but the SCMP reported on it sourcing the website here.
The rest of your comment is a massive fucking yikes.
To put it in a US context, you're saying that because Bin Laden's Mujahideen was an Islamic and ethnically Arab movement the US should have put everyone who refused to stop wearing long beards or veils in internment camps as there's otherwise no way to tell which muslim or arab is a salafiist jihadi without reading their minds, and even if they're not should we wait until they're already radicalised and armed?
That was literally the chud line in the US after 9/11 and like in the US, the answer here is because the vast majority of the Uighur and Islamic population aren't ideologically aligned with the militant seperatists and of the minority who are only a miniscule proportion is willing to back those beliefs up with violence. According to the Global Terrorism Database, in 2017 there were only 6 terrorist attacks in Xinjiang in total and they only killed 16 people and injured a further 76.
If you can't see why discriminating against a whole ethnic group with millions of members and imprisoning any of them who won't stop publically practicing their culture and religion is fucked up and reactionary then you might be the one who needs re-education.
Them not being equivalent is also, literally, the US state department line. The CPC has been trying to equate their handling of Uighur seperatism in Xinjiang with the US "war on terror" since 2001. It kind of worked too. They got Uighur seperatist groups designated as terrorist organisations, did international anti-terror collaborations against them and until 2009 there were even Uighur seperatists imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay.
What should and have happened, as was suggested in the paper I quoted, was a crackdown on everyone advocating for or planning terrorist acts or violent seperatism while addressing the blatant inequalities between the Uighur people and Han Chinese via affirmitive action and ending the systematic discrimination that was spurring radicalization in the first place and leaving the vast majoriy of the many millions of Muslims and Uighur's who weren't violent or even ideological seperatists to practice their culture and religion in peace.
Why do you think it's ok for an ethnic and religious minority to be discriminated against systematically and that when that discrimination radicalises a tiny minority of that group into seperatism to address this and double digit numbers of that minority commit terrorist acts in the name of separatism that somehow justifies banning outward expression of that religion and culture practiced by millions and imprisoning everyone who resists?
Hate to break it to you but you might be a reactionary!
You don't actually mean you're ok with anything so long as it keeps CIA influence as low as possible, as the answer to that is just nuking humanity into extinction (no CIA influence if there's no CIA and no CIA if there's no humans headtappingman.jpg) you mean you're ok with mass racial discrimination and incarceration based on that and are using "combatting CIA influence" to justify it.
I hope you deworm your brain until racism isn't something you're ok with, but until then, this conversation is over and you can go fuck yourself.
You thinking that mass racial discrimination and incarceration is a necessary, appropriate or even effective measure to stop that is the racist part.
You're arguing that just because fascists who make up a tiny minority of a religion/culture want an ethnostate of a certain religion/culture that religion/culture should be banned and everyone who practices it despite the ban should be incarcerated (reactionary, implicitly buying into the fascist claim that everyone of a culture/religion should/does want an ethnostate,) and you're somehow only applying this to a group of brown muslims (islamophobic and racist!).
That you seem to think a fascist ethnostate can only be prevented from forming by eradicating the culture the fascists want to form an ethnostate of is super fucking reactionary and that you're only applying this twisted logic to a group of brown muslims is super fucking racist.
To be clear, in Xinjiang, as of 2017 "outward manifestations of extremism" such as, wearing a veil in public, or having an abnormal beard are banned.
The CPC is not just targeting separatists who happen to be Islamic and Uighur, they've criminalized practicing Islam and expressing Uighur ethno-cultural identity purportedly as a way of trying to target separatists.
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The source is the official government news website for the Xinjiang Autonomous Region Tianshan net.
Tianshan net's archive only goes back to October 2017 and this happened in March, but the SCMP reported on it sourcing the website here.
The rest of your comment is a massive fucking yikes.
To put it in a US context, you're saying that because Bin Laden's Mujahideen was an Islamic and ethnically Arab movement the US should have put everyone who refused to stop wearing long beards or veils in internment camps as there's otherwise no way to tell which muslim or arab is a salafiist jihadi without reading their minds, and even if they're not should we wait until they're already radicalised and armed?
That was literally the chud line in the US after 9/11 and like in the US, the answer here is because the vast majority of the Uighur and Islamic population aren't ideologically aligned with the militant seperatists and of the minority who are only a miniscule proportion is willing to back those beliefs up with violence. According to the Global Terrorism Database, in 2017 there were only 6 terrorist attacks in Xinjiang in total and they only killed 16 people and injured a further 76.
If you can't see why discriminating against a whole ethnic group with millions of members and imprisoning any of them who won't stop publically practicing their culture and religion is fucked up and reactionary then you might be the one who needs re-education.
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Them not being equivalent is also, literally, the US state department line. The CPC has been trying to equate their handling of Uighur seperatism in Xinjiang with the US "war on terror" since 2001. It kind of worked too. They got Uighur seperatist groups designated as terrorist organisations, did international anti-terror collaborations against them and until 2009 there were even Uighur seperatists imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay.
What should and have happened, as was suggested in the paper I quoted, was a crackdown on everyone advocating for or planning terrorist acts or violent seperatism while addressing the blatant inequalities between the Uighur people and Han Chinese via affirmitive action and ending the systematic discrimination that was spurring radicalization in the first place and leaving the vast majoriy of the many millions of Muslims and Uighur's who weren't violent or even ideological seperatists to practice their culture and religion in peace.
Why do you think it's ok for an ethnic and religious minority to be discriminated against systematically and that when that discrimination radicalises a tiny minority of that group into seperatism to address this and double digit numbers of that minority commit terrorist acts in the name of separatism that somehow justifies banning outward expression of that religion and culture practiced by millions and imprisoning everyone who resists?
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Hate to break it to you but you might be a reactionary!
You don't actually mean you're ok with anything so long as it keeps CIA influence as low as possible, as the answer to that is just nuking humanity into extinction (no CIA influence if there's no CIA and no CIA if there's no humans headtappingman.jpg) you mean you're ok with mass racial discrimination and incarceration based on that and are using "combatting CIA influence" to justify it.
I hope you deworm your brain until racism isn't something you're ok with, but until then, this conversation is over and you can go fuck yourself.
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You thinking that mass racial discrimination and incarceration is a necessary, appropriate or even effective measure to stop that is the racist part.
You're arguing that just because fascists who make up a tiny minority of a religion/culture want an ethnostate of a certain religion/culture that religion/culture should be banned and everyone who practices it despite the ban should be incarcerated (reactionary, implicitly buying into the fascist claim that everyone of a culture/religion should/does want an ethnostate,) and you're somehow only applying this to a group of brown muslims (islamophobic and racist!).
That you seem to think a fascist ethnostate can only be prevented from forming by eradicating the culture the fascists want to form an ethnostate of is super fucking reactionary and that you're only applying this twisted logic to a group of brown muslims is super fucking racist.
I'm going to bed now.
Hope you unfuck your brain.
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