On Thursday, Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said the United States should reflect on why it adopted different positions on the two events. She said the storming of the Hong Kong legislature was more “severe” than the events in Washington, but there were no fatalities among the protesters.

“In ... 2019, radical demonstrators [in Hong Kong] violently stormed the city’s Legislative Council building, wantonly damaged facilities, used toxic powders and liquids to attack and beat the police, and even [allegedly] bit a police officer’s finger off,” Hua said. “Facing a situation like this, Hong Kong police had kept a high degree of restraint and no demonstrators died.

“Now the US mainstream media had unanimously criticised violent Trump fans in [Washington], saying it’s a violent event and those protesters are mobs, extremists ... But what description did they use on the Hong Kong protest? ‘Beautiful sight’.” Hua was referring to US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s comments about mass demonstrations in June 2019 in Hong Kong as a “beautiful sight to behold”.

  • Janked [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Too bad Americans can do whatever mental gymnastics necessary to get to CHINA BAD.

      • Janked [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        :xi-shining: :xibe-check: :xi: :xi-lib-tears:

        • existentialspicerack [she/her,they/them]
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          4 years ago

          I did, judges are a bullshit idea. but everyone should judge.

          also, decades of oppression and various horrors and capitalist ecological atrocities. not as bad as the american empire, but still kinda crap.

          can't talk shit about cuba tho. why not hold them up? they're a green powerhouse of humanitarian aid, and despite some typical latin american queerphobia (that's rapidly improving), they're an unquestionable benefit to the world. why not endorse the actual communists? instead of the evil empire's rival slightly-less-evil empire? by that logic, why didn't you campaign for biden?

          • MerryChristmas [any]
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            4 years ago

            Cuba wouldn't have made it this far without China. We need China in order for countries like Cuba to flourish, and what's more, they're the only nominally socialist state with the power to stand against the western hegemony. They may not be the ideal communist nation, but they need our critical support right now.

            • existentialspicerack [she/her,they/them]
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              4 years ago

              hey I've asked to disengage multiple places on this thread. you might be replying upthread of those, I don't even give enough shits about arguing with you to check, and I can act like im assuming good faith, but it's really hard to do honestly at this point where tankies are involved.

              I would like to not hear anything aobut this thread in my inbox ever ever ever again. thank you.

            • existentialspicerack [she/her,they/them]
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              4 years ago

              debatable. and ive got things to say on this and the discussion might be worth happening elsewhere, but ive asked to disengage on this thread multiple times because I can't with the uncritical tankies.

          • fash_basher [fae/faer,she/her]
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            4 years ago

            also, decades of oppression and various horrors and capitalist ecological atrocities

            Oh you mean CIA propaganda?

            • existentialspicerack [she/her,they/them]
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              4 years ago

              you're right, the CIA existing means china never stopped being communist and everything's okay and the rivers are fine and you can just drink out of them and the air is totally impossible to chew and there are no lakes of black industrial sludge that will give you cancer if you get close enough to look at them and everything's FINE.

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            why not endorse the actual communists? instead of the evil empire’s rival slightly-less-evil empire? by that logic, why didn’t you campaign for biden?

            Well let's see what Fidel has to say about whether China is actually socialist:

            "If you want to talk about socialism, let us not forget what socialism achieved in China. At one time it was the land of hunger, poverty, disasters. Today there is none of that. Today China can feed, dress, educate, and care for the health of 1.2 billion people.

            "I think China is a socialist country, and Vietnam is a socialist nation as well. And they insist that they have introduced all the necessary reforms in order to motivate national development and to continue seeking the objectives of socialism.

            "There are no fully pure regimes or systems. In Cuba, for instance, we have many forms of private property. We have hundreds of thousands of farm owners. In some cases they own up to 110 acres. In Europe they would be considered large landholders. Practically all Cubans own their own home and, what is more, we welcome foreign investment.

            "But that does not mean that Cuba has stopped being socialist."

            But hey, what does Castro know about socialism? Not more than you, surely.

          • dinklesplein [any, he/him]
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            4 years ago

            decades of oppression

            various horrors

            with all due respect you're not going to be taken very seriously if you allude to vague bad things that could literally mean anything. if you're not specific with your criticisms then we're just going to assume ur some lib concern trolling over foxconn suicide nets or something.

            • existentialspicerack [she/her,they/them]
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              4 years ago

              I mean, those too. you're not communist if (even semi)private companies own the means of production. full fucking stop. the rest is just the standard horrors of capitalism. I'd link, but I asked to disengage downthread because you people are irrational thugs and I can't believe in left unity or that you (collective, IDK you personally yet) are engaging in anything but bad faith.

  • Audeamus [any]
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    4 years ago

    I'm glad someone is pointing this out.

    The US praises (and sponsors) riots of this sort all over the world, extolling them as yearnings for democracy and freedom. But the minute one happens in the US - it's a fascist-terrorist coup attempt.

    Elected socdems (Cori Bush, AOC, etc.) are probably correct to take advantage of the moment by calling for a crackdown on the far right. Good riddance. But they should also remember not to hypocritically sign on to US imperialist propaganda that supports the same events when they happen abroad. (There are good and bad uprisings, of course, but the Empire's stances on them are nothing but cynical.)

    • Marsala [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      tbf it was a fascist-terrorist coup attempt. Libs just fail to recognize it when it happens outside the US.

  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    "Freedomistan" is pretty orientalizing. I know its a dig on Americans who think everything in -stan nations is bad but you're reproducing that notion to make the point.