https://x.com/SecBlinken/status/1707826104759705760?s=20

EDIT: Also the community notes kept disappearing at times, probably butthurt lmayo s

  • tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    I can't even think of what the reason he would say the Soviets would have to bury the history. I went to the post to see if users agreed or added more to his point but of course he hid the replies.

    • RedDawn [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      According to NATOpedia, the USSR emphasized all of the victims at Babi Yar, soviets of all ethnicities and so didnt erect memorials specifically to Jewish and Roma victims. Something like 34,000 Jews, basically every Jew in Kiev was murdered there and then over the next months or years many more people, Poles, disabled, Russians, Communists etc were also killed with total victims being about 100,000.

      So the soviets did not bury the history, they openly acknowledged the history but emphasized all victims as civilians murdered by fascism and didn’t emphasize the Jewish and Roma genocides explicitly or prominently. Thats my understanding of what Blinken means by “buried history” after a quick glance at wikipedia at least.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        well that would be explained if the soviets didn't really think the ethnicity of the people murdered mattered. It's as wrong to kill a Roma or Jewish person as it is to kill anyone else after all

        • RedDawn [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          That’s true but it’s also probably true that the mass murder of Jews there being one of the biggest single mass killings of the Jewish Holocaust deserves special acknowledgment.

          Now, I’m not commenting one way or the other on whether the Soviets failed to do that because I really don’t know, I was just relaying what I believe to be Blinken’s justification for what he said in the tweet, for anybody who’s wondering what the hell he’s even getting at. I still think he’s being a disingenuous and ridiculous using the phrase “buried the history” because we know that the Soviets did not engage in Holocaust denialism. There’s a nuanced conversation to be had, Blinken isn’t doing that, he’s reaching for a cheap political score against the Russians.

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I can see justifications for both as the decimation of the Jewish population was especially tragic but also the idea that Jews aren't a true part of their homeland is antisemitic and it would be bad to in the wake of the holocaust acknowledge any of the logic behind it