https://x.com/SecBlinken/status/1707826104759705760?s=20
EDIT: Also the community notes kept disappearing at times, probably butthurt 
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why the fuck would the nazis' mortal enemy bury evidence of the nazis' atrocities?
talking about the ussr ofc, america was never actually the nazis' enemy
well you see, communism and nazism are actually the exact same thingI can't even think of what the reason he would say the Soviets would have to bury the history. I went to the post to see if users agreed or added more to his point but of course he hid the replies.
According to NATOpedia, the USSR emphasized all of the victims at Babi Yar, soviets of all ethnicities and so didnt erect memorials specifically to Jewish and Roma victims. Something like 34,000 Jews, basically every Jew in Kiev was murdered there and then over the next months or years many more people, Poles, disabled, Russians, Communists etc were also killed with total victims being about 100,000.
So the soviets did not bury the history, they openly acknowledged the history but emphasized all victims as civilians murdered by fascism and didn’t emphasize the Jewish and Roma genocides explicitly or prominently. Thats my understanding of what Blinken means by “buried history” after a quick glance at wikipedia at least.
well that would be explained if the soviets didn't really think the ethnicity of the people murdered mattered. It's as wrong to kill a Roma or Jewish person as it is to kill anyone else after all
That’s true but it’s also probably true that the mass murder of Jews there being one of the biggest single mass killings of the Jewish Holocaust deserves special acknowledgment.
Now, I’m not commenting one way or the other on whether the Soviets failed to do that because I really don’t know, I was just relaying what I believe to be Blinken’s justification for what he said in the tweet, for anybody who’s wondering what the hell he’s even getting at. I still think he’s being a disingenuous and ridiculous using the phrase “buried the history” because we know that the Soviets did not engage in Holocaust denialism. There’s a nuanced conversation to be had, Blinken isn’t doing that, he’s reaching for a cheap political score against the Russians.
I can see justifications for both as the decimation of the Jewish population was especially tragic but also the idea that Jews aren't a true part of their homeland is antisemitic and it would be bad to in the wake of the holocaust acknowledge any of the logic behind it
Stalin used time travel to learn of the current situation and decided to cover it up so Putin could spring it as propaganda or whatever.
Good to know that the US secretary of state is trustworthy as always.
Blinken was one of the officials on Biden's staff waaay back in the early aughts that helped goad Biden into pounding the table for the invasion of Iraq. You can count on him to reliably have the absolute worst position on all things foreign policy.
They're saying that the "covering" is telling those atrocities
"US Official" kind of undersells it. This is the Secretary of State. It is the highest ranking position in the executive branch that doesn't end in "President."
The secretary of state passively did some Holocaust revisionism and the average Joe STILL thinks the government isn't fascist ENOUGH.
I'm starting to think Stalin was too restrained in hist treatment of Nazis and that is a wild thing to think.
Should have hunted every last one of them down like
Letting a single one of them get to
or 
was a mistakethinking about that (misattributed?) quote,
"Compared to Lenin, Stalin was a mere lamb" - Molotov
This is a pretty uninformed take of mine but I feel like post WW2 USSR consistently underestimated how ruthless and barbaric the capitalist West could be.
Sorry but last question. You say:
Pretty sure people like Stalin, Zhukov, and Beria all predicted exactly this
What are you saying they predicted?
I think this is 100% true. And that's very important to remember for the future.
I agree 100%. It consistently seems like people who aren't part of the high level machinery of capitalism just cannot imagine how grotesquely violent and horrible Capitalists are. They keep underestimating how utterly ruthless and evil capitalists will be to scrape the slightest advantage.
No I hate people talking about used to be. I think used to be chokes the life out of countries that embrace it. For example "we used to have a great empire" well we don't anymore move on
Successful countries aren't always talking about how things used to be great they are talking about what will be
They call him Blinken because you gotta be asleep to believe his words
Babi Yar was carried out by German SS and Ukrainian Auxiliary Police.
(when did it become Babyn Yar? Is this another one of those incredibly forced geopolitical attempts to swap out Anglicization of Russian terms for Anglicization of Ukrainian?)
There's been a weird push to paint the USSR as Nazi Germany's ally for the first few years of the war. It's a bit terrifying seeing history rewritten at this scale.
it's an attempt to exaggerate the molotov ribbentrop pact and ignore the lead up to it. The USSR tried to do realpolitik in two ways. first they went around trying to form an antifascist alliance with the "Liberal Democracies" of Europe in the early 30s. Naturally the "Liberal Democracies" of Europe did not take them upon this offer because A) They were trading with, funding, enabling and/or ignoring fascist italy and fascist Germany and B) They were hoping to use the fascist states as an anticommunist bulwark. Slowly all these countries started to sign nonaggression pacts with the fascists. The USSR was the last to do so, fearing invasion, and needing to buy time to move their factories East, out of Hitler's way. So they signed the molotov ribbentrop pact, and invaded Poland alongside Germany. Now there's two ways of looking at this. One is that they teamed up with Hitler to fuck up Poland. The other way of looking at it is they temporarily prevented East Poland from being invaded by Nazi Germany. They also got into the winter war with finland. Stalin expected Finland would also be used as a corridor for Nazi invasion. They tried to buy that land from Finland, but Finland refused. After the Winter War, Finland gave intelligence to Germany, became an axis power, and allowed Germany to invade through that corridor.
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fun fact, White Finland was in bed with the nazis as soon as they burst into the scene.
this "oh nooo those evil meanie soviets pushed finland to ally with nazis" - shit is ass covering at its finest
Me when Canada gave cheered for a Nazi: "damn i guess this means American politicians will be more careful and not do something like that"
Me today: ahhh nvm, right on schedule
: "Wait, you're a Holocaust denier? Get a load of the SJW reverse-racist over here! Why deny the Holocaust when you can just say the soviets did it and Nazi Germany was squeaky clean? I mean, communism is bad because high school said so, but ironically this logic does not play out for the nazis or the confederates."This is going to be their new talking point, isn't it? Because of course the biggest threat to the west would do what it can to make the ultimate expression of the west's bourgeoisie, sinful history look good.
Next week: Soviet soldiers did not liberate Auschwitz. Ukrainian soldiers did
That has literally already happened. Too lazy to dig it up though.
Yeah I remember that shit from like a year ago I think
I've heard "Zhukov wasn't soviet he was Ukrainian" now even including Ukrainians in high level government positions is oppressing Ukrainians
If Stalin was Ukrainian we wouldn't be in this mess right now
Pretty soon liberals will be on some race science shit about soviet being an exctinct neanderthal race that superior skulled Ukrainians outbred and replaced by 1991
The reason Hitler lost was because he mistaken the ubermensch G*rmans for Aryans when in fact it was Ukrainians.
I was just assuming that we would decide that communism is a jewish conspiracy and conclude the holocaust was self defence
EDIT: Also the community notes kept disappearing at times, probably butthurt
sThey announced earlier this week that they're going to remove community notes. Tbh I thought they'd be gone by now
They announced earlier this week that they're going to remove community notes. Tbh I thought they'd be gone by now
Probably clashes with engagement. If a note correction exists then it takes away outrage engagement that would otherwise be generated by people trying to oppose complete and total bullshit.
Is there ever a consequence to blatant falsehood? Surely there is a folly to a confidence game without a tether to reality
