• Karlthirsttrapfranz [doe/deer]
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    4 years ago

    How else are you supposed to convert chuds?

    Majority report is lib to left

    Dore is chud to left pipeline.

    • LibsEatPoop2 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      the problem with chud-to-left pipeline is that too often, you end up turning chuds to chuds-who-want-m4a-but-still-hate-immigrants.

      • sadfacenogains [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        You tell those chuds they have a choice, cooperate with leftists to get leftist policies passed or get nothing at all while immigrants still come anyway.

        • Moosegender [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Right. Because leftists decide the terms in this country. Not chuds.

          • sadfacenogains [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Well chuds don't decide the terms either, in terms of social and economic policies. It would be more accurate to say they have been losing, considering that immigration is still a thing, more and more drugs are being legalized, same-sex marriage legalization etc. In terms of economic policies, working class chuds keep pushing for policies that hurt them(until very recently with the rise of right-populism). But with the failure of right-populism, they're not even getting that.

            I think this is something that leftists have to realize, chuds are losing as badly as we are. It is only the capitalist class that is winning.

            • Moosegender [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Lmao. Tell that the when a chud doesn’t get away with murdering black people on a daily basis or are basically treated with kid gloves after mass shootings.

              • sadfacenogains [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                I'm talking about the average chud. The average chud, who is still a human being, is fundamentally as powerless as you are.

                • LibsEatPoop2 [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  while i agree both leftists and chuds are powerless when compared to the capitalist class, the chuds (white, cis, male) have more power especially over others.

      • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        the problem with chud-to-left pipeline is that too often, you end up turning chuds to chuds-who-want-m4a-but-still-hate-immigrants.

        a) Isn't that better than the situation before?

        b) A materialist understanding of class consciousness entails that people learn the mosst by doing. That implies that the best way to convince someone that immigrants aren't their enemy isn't by debating him, but by organising struggle for healthcare (for example) where he experiences that non-white people are on his side.

    • Ryan_Holman [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      As I said above, it would be great for more people on the left to go on Fox News, and other right-wing media.

      However, if they are going to just be yucking it up with people like Tucker Carlson, while attacking liberals or even actual leftists, using chud talking points, I fail to see how that helps anybody move to the left.

      • pepe_silvia96 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        imo only extraordinary humans create pipelines to the left. if not for Michael Brooks I'd still be a chud.

        on the other hand, dumbfucks like rogan can create pipelines to the right. because right is the general ideology of the western world, it doesnt take much of a push.

        dore is just a dumbfuck who experienced the inhumanity of the american healthcare system. if not for him declaring bankruptcy as a result of bad health, he'd probs be a trump supporter. hes got no ideological integrity to speak of.

    • Moosegender [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Really? How is it that his comment section is awash in unrepentant chuds. Where is the conversion?