You tell those chuds they have a choice, cooperate with leftists to get leftist policies passed or get nothing at all while immigrants still come anyway.
Well chuds don't decide the terms either, in terms of social and economic policies. It would be more accurate to say they have been losing, considering that immigration is still a thing, more and more drugs are being legalized, same-sex marriage legalization etc. In terms of economic policies, working class chuds keep pushing for policies that hurt them(until very recently with the rise of right-populism). But with the failure of right-populism, they're not even getting that.
I think this is something that leftists have to realize, chuds are losing as badly as we are. It is only the capitalist class that is winning.
Lmao. Tell that the when a chud doesn’t get away with murdering black people on a daily basis or are basically treated with kid gloves after mass shootings.
while i agree both leftists and chuds are powerless when compared to the capitalist class, the chuds (white, cis, male) have more power especially over others.
the problem with chud-to-left pipeline is that too often, you end up turning chuds to chuds-who-want-m4a-but-still-hate-immigrants.
a) Isn't that better than the situation before?
b) A materialist understanding of class consciousness entails that people learn the mosst by doing. That implies that the best way to convince someone that immigrants aren't their enemy isn't by debating him, but by organising struggle for healthcare (for example) where he experiences that non-white people are on his side.
As I said above, it would be great for more people on the left to go on Fox News, and other right-wing media.
However, if they are going to just be yucking it up with people like Tucker Carlson, while attacking liberals or even actual leftists, using chud talking points, I fail to see how that helps anybody move to the left.
imo only extraordinary humans create pipelines to the left. if not for Michael Brooks I'd still be a chud.
on the other hand, dumbfucks like rogan can create pipelines to the right. because right is the general ideology of the western world, it doesnt take much of a push.
dore is just a dumbfuck who experienced the inhumanity of the american healthcare system. if not for him declaring bankruptcy as a result of bad health, he'd probs be a trump supporter. hes got no ideological integrity to speak of.
How else are you supposed to convert chuds?
Majority report is lib to left
Dore is chud to left pipeline.
the problem with chud-to-left pipeline is that too often, you end up turning chuds to chuds-who-want-m4a-but-still-hate-immigrants.
You tell those chuds they have a choice, cooperate with leftists to get leftist policies passed or get nothing at all while immigrants still come anyway.
Right. Because leftists decide the terms in this country. Not chuds.
Well chuds don't decide the terms either, in terms of social and economic policies. It would be more accurate to say they have been losing, considering that immigration is still a thing, more and more drugs are being legalized, same-sex marriage legalization etc. In terms of economic policies, working class chuds keep pushing for policies that hurt them(until very recently with the rise of right-populism). But with the failure of right-populism, they're not even getting that.
I think this is something that leftists have to realize, chuds are losing as badly as we are. It is only the capitalist class that is winning.
Lmao. Tell that the when a chud doesn’t get away with murdering black people on a daily basis or are basically treated with kid gloves after mass shootings.
I'm talking about the average chud. The average chud, who is still a human being, is fundamentally as powerless as you are.
while i agree both leftists and chuds are powerless when compared to the capitalist class, the chuds (white, cis, male) have more power especially over others.
a) Isn't that better than the situation before?
b) A materialist understanding of class consciousness entails that people learn the mosst by doing. That implies that the best way to convince someone that immigrants aren't their enemy isn't by debating him, but by organising struggle for healthcare (for example) where he experiences that non-white people are on his side.
I'll take M4a as a baby step
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You mean social democrats?
Rogan is just a spinning pipeline that'll throw you in a random direction
the ark of rogan's spin turns towards chuddery, though.
It's probabilistic chuddery coin flip with a bias toward chud.
As I said above, it would be great for more people on the left to go on Fox News, and other right-wing media.
However, if they are going to just be yucking it up with people like Tucker Carlson, while attacking liberals or even actual leftists, using chud talking points, I fail to see how that helps anybody move to the left.
imo only extraordinary humans create pipelines to the left. if not for Michael Brooks I'd still be a chud.
on the other hand, dumbfucks like rogan can create pipelines to the right. because right is the general ideology of the western world, it doesnt take much of a push.
dore is just a dumbfuck who experienced the inhumanity of the american healthcare system. if not for him declaring bankruptcy as a result of bad health, he'd probs be a trump supporter. hes got no ideological integrity to speak of.
Really? How is it that his comment section is awash in unrepentant chuds. Where is the conversion?
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I always look for this "a washed in" . But only ever see a bit of chuddery. But you do you.