You tell those chuds they have a choice, cooperate with leftists to get leftist policies passed or get nothing at all while immigrants still come anyway.
Well chuds don't decide the terms either, in terms of social and economic policies. It would be more accurate to say they have been losing, considering that immigration is still a thing, more and more drugs are being legalized, same-sex marriage legalization etc. In terms of economic policies, working class chuds keep pushing for policies that hurt them(until very recently with the rise of right-populism). But with the failure of right-populism, they're not even getting that.
I think this is something that leftists have to realize, chuds are losing as badly as we are. It is only the capitalist class that is winning.
Lmao. Tell that the when a chud doesn’t get away with murdering black people on a daily basis or are basically treated with kid gloves after mass shootings.
while i agree both leftists and chuds are powerless when compared to the capitalist class, the chuds (white, cis, male) have more power especially over others.
the problem with chud-to-left pipeline is that too often, you end up turning chuds to chuds-who-want-m4a-but-still-hate-immigrants.
a) Isn't that better than the situation before?
b) A materialist understanding of class consciousness entails that people learn the mosst by doing. That implies that the best way to convince someone that immigrants aren't their enemy isn't by debating him, but by organising struggle for healthcare (for example) where he experiences that non-white people are on his side.
the problem with chud-to-left pipeline is that too often, you end up turning chuds to chuds-who-want-m4a-but-still-hate-immigrants.
You tell those chuds they have a choice, cooperate with leftists to get leftist policies passed or get nothing at all while immigrants still come anyway.
Right. Because leftists decide the terms in this country. Not chuds.
Well chuds don't decide the terms either, in terms of social and economic policies. It would be more accurate to say they have been losing, considering that immigration is still a thing, more and more drugs are being legalized, same-sex marriage legalization etc. In terms of economic policies, working class chuds keep pushing for policies that hurt them(until very recently with the rise of right-populism). But with the failure of right-populism, they're not even getting that.
I think this is something that leftists have to realize, chuds are losing as badly as we are. It is only the capitalist class that is winning.
Lmao. Tell that the when a chud doesn’t get away with murdering black people on a daily basis or are basically treated with kid gloves after mass shootings.
I'm talking about the average chud. The average chud, who is still a human being, is fundamentally as powerless as you are.
while i agree both leftists and chuds are powerless when compared to the capitalist class, the chuds (white, cis, male) have more power especially over others.
a) Isn't that better than the situation before?
b) A materialist understanding of class consciousness entails that people learn the mosst by doing. That implies that the best way to convince someone that immigrants aren't their enemy isn't by debating him, but by organising struggle for healthcare (for example) where he experiences that non-white people are on his side.
I'll take M4a as a baby step
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You mean social democrats?