I'm 1 but I haven't earned my Xi bucks yet :angry-hex:

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I'm not a tankie. I'm just aware that there is an obvious effort by the west to paint communist countries as pure evil so I take anti-China stuff with a grain of salt.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I'm a Luxembourgist, but apparently anything that doesn't throw every government left of Sweden under the bus is literally rolling the tanks into Budapest.

  • Waldoz53 [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    true praxis is whining about tankies 24/7

    im an ancom and i just am so tired of these people. i'm glad the other anarchists i hang around don't whine about tankies all the time. i guarantee MLs will happily join your work's union if you ask them to. like what are you going to do? become a scab to own the tankies?

      • ultraviolet [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        This is why I don't bother with any serious political discussions online. It's just constant bitching about why other leftists are bad

    • lilpissbaby [any]
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      4 years ago

      the extremely online leftists are super annoying. the infighting is so tacky too.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Anarchists are generally way better at day to day building of solidarity and consciousness in most places. Always ready to help you out.

      And if you guys look like you're winning the big one, I'll hoist the black flag in a second.

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Anti-tankieism is one of the lamest quirks an internet leftist (real or aesthetic) can have. Even if you have a clear and strict definition and you apply it consistently and you have valid reasons or whatever, who the fuck are these people? What leads you to believe that they are a politically significant or growing faction that you need to give a shit about at all?

    • gammison [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Only time (and not really referring to tankies but wreckers more generally here) it's 100 percent worth doing is if they show up in person to your event to either protest it or fuck around with it or steal members (for example people showing up to union voting meetings encouraging votes against unionization because the UAW is shit, and tbf it is, but the response to that is not voting against unionizing jfc. ). I've seen that happen before, and you just shout at them till they leave. Only reason to really fight online is if you think joining the group genuinely harms people in which case you just let those grievances be known (like I've had multiple conversations with ex-PSL members and there is serious abuse that has occurred in chapters repeatedly, and in my own organizing have had to steer people away from them, WWP, SWP, SEP, IMT and a few random others. Joys of being in a big city where all the groups actually have members lol).

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Sorry to burst your bubble but the global hegemony has treated communism like an evil disgusting disease for about 200 years now and splits among the left are also nothing new. The word "communism" itself simply means "bad thing" in a lot of countries already.

  • cybernetsoc [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    4, I repeat every argument I have on chacha in a Sam Harris subreddit as a demonstration of logical incoherency.

  • Blurst_Of_Times [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    1: Yellow peril

    2: :LIB: hysteria

    3: :LIB: condescenscion

    4: We fuckin hate those people and I'm wondering now if all of their interactions take place on reddit

    • spectre [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      3 definitely exists, but i don't see that person much on chapo.there are some real garbage takes out there on Twitter and stuff

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      presents ceremonial armchair and copy of "The Revolution Betrayed"

  • CrispyFern [fae/faer, any]
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    4 years ago

    Honestly 4 isnt even that bad. A curious intellectual who reads theory, is pragmatic, and knows when to stop posting? sign me tf up

    • spectre [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      4s are fucking libs. I'm saying this as a 4 myself

  • Crowtee_Robot [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    What do we think, fellas? :chairman: :che-poggers: :fidel-sarcastic: :juche: :stalin-joking: :ypg-brace: