Its seriously the biggest problem right now
Edit: hurr durr bullets and gulag, serious replies only pls
Don't do some lumpen crap class reductionism and challenge them on every bigoted view. You will only encourage opportunism and zero solidarity if you only try to relate through capitalism.
To a point I agree with that too which is why I don't have many friends where I live right now but jeez that makes prospects real bleak
Everyone should understand that we are left as we wish to end all forms of oppression. This is an uncompromising position, my identity as a worker does not exist in a vacuum. Most women are not guaranteed the ability to have time to give birth. In a country like the United States, leave for her partners is unheard of.
As a worker I am capable of relating to other people whose identity I don't share. BIPOC workers are almost exclusively in lower positions of business hierarchy, and this can be connected to many other reasons and identities.
The disabled are unmet in accomodation, losing talented workers and forcing them into menial labor.
Transgender, gender-noncomforming; romantic and sexual minorities are met with workplace harassment. They were unable to quality for the same benefits as couples or be recognised as what they even are until only recently. They can be excluded from entire fields and have to chose between unaccepting workplaces that force them to deny their own self.
A name on a resume such as Jamal is associated with Muslims, black, and brown people has a higher chance of being passed over. Yet, a Muslim named Abraham has a higher chance. Why does this happen?
Without intersectionality there is no solidarity between workers. To not understand our shared oppression is reactionary. Explain to them that we will only perpetuate our own oppression by enforcing the divides decided by our shared oppression.
Edit: I'd like to note the large amount of trans comrades I personally know who work for Starbucks. They are so intelligent and yet why? It's often the only place that offers trans healthcare insurance.
Speaking of Parenti.
Power is always more secure when cooptive, covert, and manipulative than when nakedly brutish. The support elicited through the control of minds is more durable than the support extracted at the point of a bayonet. The essentially undemocratic nature of the mainstream media, like the other business-dominated institutions of society, must be hidden behind a neutralistic, voluntaristic, pluralistic facade.
"For manipulation to be most effective, evidence of its presence should be nonexistent.... It is essential, therefore, that people who are manipulated believe in the neutrality of their key social institutions," writes Herbert Schiller.
Look at how successful the DDR was with denazification.
Do you have any good sources on this?
But how do you explain that without attracting brain dead casual racists and pedes, I guess they call themselves. I think its harder on the internet because nobody has anything in common, but people fucking suck
You will attract those people no matter what. Give them the Brain cells they lost. Try approaching them with disguised socialism.
Thats how I get along with people at work, by speaking honestly about liberals
Hell no haha online shit posting and LARPing is how I deal with my terminal communism
Oh lol no I mean I don't talk openly about how great Stalin was in real life. I talk about Socialism whenever it comes up. The GDR flag might come down if this martial law thing happens though
Mobilizing people requires them to be aware of their own demands. Disguising socialism does nothing but create little games of subterfuge that can't be won.
Awful take if unironic. Race is a bullshit construct but it does still have real material consequences for people who are racialized (e.g. Black and Indigenous people). Anti-Black racism, the caste-like racial hierarchy associated with post-Columbian slavery, was rooted in the "need" for the slave system/transatlantic trade to justify itself ideologically, especially to distinguish Irish and other Euro-descended indentured servants from Black Afro-descended slaves. Anti-racism has to be incorporated into any successful anti-capitalist project, and fighting racism requires fighting capitalism.
And at what point do you draw the line for rallying together do we want our class consciousness to have Cum Town jokes in it?
I know their newest video on YouTube features Adam as Trotsky its based
Just because cumtown makes shitty jokes doesn’t mean we should alienate them
Sure. I’m absolutely fine with bullying a cumtown user that tries to epically own the left.
There is no formula. Some people can be easier to change, some can't. I really don't have enough experience to change people's minds to really say much.
Read The Authoritarians, free ebook version here: theauthoritarians.org Very little can be done, in my opinion. 25% of any population will be reactionary assholes down to their bones.
Even if "25% of any population will be reactionary assholes" is true, that doesn't translate to "very little can be done." A quarter of the population can't accomplish very much unless they organize and gain some appreciable amount of political power. The task, then, is to figure out how to shatter reactionary institutions and drive reactionary thinking out of the sphere of acceptable public discourse.
Proles? What proles baby? A service economy does not a working class make. Working class consciousness (in the Marxist terms) is formed by urban proletariat working social relationships. The deindustrialized US offers very little of that and therefore very few opportunities for working class consciousness to arise. It’s why our most effective left movements in the US occurred first pre-deindustrialization and second as a Maoist movement in the colonized African American population. We’d have to re-proletarianize some motherfuckers before we could pursue class consciousness. Otherwise why wouldn’t they be racist? If material politics aren’t on the table anywhere (and they aren’t because there’s no proletariat pressure available to be exerted) they might as well jump on the cultural politics that get their dicks hard and being racist does it for a lot of white people. Especially those in precarious material conditions who can reassert their superiority along these superstructural lines
We’d have to re-proletarianize some motherfuckers before we could pursue class consciousness.
What do you think happened to a good 3/4 of the millennials from "middle-class" families who went to college for a liberal arts degree only to end up having to work the sort of almost-minimum-wage part-time jobs that used to only require HS graduation or a GED? This process began after the 2008 recession and was likely accelerated as a result of the 2020 recession.
I think that if you can improve their material conditions they will defend a revolution.
So like just do it without them and have an epic i told you so as they get good jobs? God that sucks fuck them
Not everyone needs to be the same level marxist to be necessary for society function and I think telling people they will have more money in their pockets and cheaper healthcare and more time off is enough to convince many people to think about another mode of production.
You have to pick and choose your battles. Don't be that did who has spent like 3 decades trying to get a bunch of people.tonleavw the Klan and has only gotten a few to actually leave.
On a strictly individual level, you basically have to give them something to trust/believe in while also tearing down their reactionary beliefs. Earlier on, it's more about getting them to trust you and sowing doubt as to their reactionary beliefs. You want to start poking holes in their beliefs by asking questions more so than trying to outright attack them. I've had success with people, but it initially involves letting more stuff slip than some people here may be willing to let slip. It took me about a year to get my friend to realize why using the t-word was actually not OK.
On a larger, systemic level, getting them to trust you involves some sort of actual organization that can actually materially impact their lives. It doesn't have to be big at first, but you have to show them that you are capable of doing what you say you can.
It's kinda late and I don't want to type out a treatise on my phone, but yeah, basically I have found that picking your battles, building trust, and sowing doubt have worked for me.
We won't need all of them but we'll want to have enough of them to be won over to a workers' party independent from the liberal bourgie/class-collaborationist flavors of idpol and from the Dems. A strong enough left will pull away working class whites on the margin from right-populist figures like Trump and they'll ditch the culture war shit as a matter of necessity.
