Spurred from this post about The Office where I saw some back-and-forth about potential occupation-shaming(?), like why are people getting heated over being able to work?

I understand there's mental health, physical disability, learning disability, or just general lack of opportunity for some people or situations, but shouldn't everyone's drive be to contribute to society as a byproduct of participating in it?

Yeah, capitalism is fucked up, but at the end of the day, shouldn't everyone be motivated to contribute something back to earn their keep? Or can we just say "fuck it" and get mad at people who shame us for choosing not to submit to the 9 to 5?

  • ColonelKernel [comrade/them]
    hexagon
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    4 years ago

    shouldn’t everyone’s drive be to contribute to society as a byproduct of participating in it?

    Oh ffs, I realized I just memed myself.

    Point still stands. What are we to do with people who want to eat, drink, do drugs, consume, prosume, and generally self-medicate without giving anything back?

    • D61 [any]
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      4 years ago

      Lots of questions would need to be asked. A few that I can think of...

      How detrimental to the community is it that they don't do "x" consistently?

      Do we get to know why they are refusing to do "x"? Is there any negotiating that can be done with them?

      Is their refusal to do "x" abstinence or violence? (Do they just not show up or show up and slack off or show up and actively sabotage the work effort.)

      If its just an inconvenience, then probably some simple and minor bullying might be called for. If its violent dissent, everything from sequestration to their home to a more extreme exile from the community could be attempted.