Goes down in history as the most authoritarian guy in history or whatever but Stalin couldnt even find a successor that wouldnt immediately denounce him and his policies. How do we learn from this? Something seems wrong here

    • RedArmor [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Oh you mean the communists murdering a bunch of soldiers? It’s called the black book of communism sweetie. You should look at it sometime :)

      • KurdKobein [any]
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        4 years ago

        Oh you mean the communists murdering a bunch of soldiers?

        I mean, that kinda happened too. They executed like twenty thousand Polish officers in one go in 1940.

  • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    his successor died of alcohol poisoning, and he was killed before the great purge part 2, after that the Corn-lord just got lucky and he imprisoned all his rivals

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    4 years ago

    The Soviet Union fell because they didn't take advantage of computers

  • ratwithagun [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Mass demoralization. No one believed in the project anymore and that meant a bunch of alcoholics could come in and fuck everything up and there was no one there to stop them

    • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Its a shame, just 10 years before they had defeated fascism and liberated half of europe. Things were looking up and it was all thrown away :/

    • KurdKobein [any]
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      4 years ago

      Wait, are you saying people were demoralized in the fifties?

      • GrandAyatollaLenin [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Nah. I think that's more of a Brezhnev era thing.

        Personally, I don't think Khrushchev did anything too bad. I wouldn't trace the collapse to him alone.

  • gammison [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Because the purges were more than anything mass paranoia that permanently damaged the party.

  • RedArmor [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It was always going to collapse once he personally starved all of Ukraine and executed 60 billion people.

    • ant9 [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Well compare it to China.

      Deng Xiaoping denounced the gang of four and excesses of the cultural revolution, but also said that Mao was and always will be an important figure. That they will remember and celebrate his accomplishments, his contributions to theory, etc.. but his mistakes don't need to be celebrated. He explicitly said that they wouldn't do to Mao what the Soviets did to Stalin.

    • late90smullbowl [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Socialism needs the same thing and more, as it must resist imperialism.

      The central point imo.

      A revolution isn't complete until it becomes the global hegemon it seems....and might not be truly secure for centuries. The eternal science.

    • Quimby [any, any]
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      4 years ago

      it'll be very interesting to see what happens after the Xi era. He has done, in many ways, unprecedented work in terms of trying to root out corruption and set China on a durable long term path.

  • comi [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Absence of antithesis in the realm of public politics, which means all the arguments where invisible inside the party and between the people in private. Should have let either official anarchist or at least trot party to exist.

  • Moosegender [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Because removing people from the system doesn’t change the system?

  • p_sharikov [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This is kind of a recurring theme in history. If too much depends on a single individual, it causes a major political crisis when they die. It's sort of ironic that this happened with Stalin, because he was a big fan of Ivan the Terrible, who also failed to create a durable system of government to outlive him and essentially caused the Time of Troubles after he died.