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  • MerryChristmas [any]
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    4 years ago

    Show them how popular M4A is, even among the rural voters who are harder to reach. A quick Google of "popular support + Medicare 4 All" turned up this article claiming M4A is supported by more than 2/3 of voters.

    Libs don't actually care about people, they care about ensuring the "good guys" win. Convincing them that it's going to be a slam dunk for whichever party actually enacts it - and that if they don't act, it could very well end up being the Republicans - is definitely easier than any moral arguments.

    • grisbajskulor [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      KFF polling also shows many people falsely assume they would be able to keep their current health insurance under a single-payer plan, suggesting another potential area for decreased support especially since most supporters (67 percent) of such a proposal think they would be able to keep their current health insurance coverage.

      Lib voice: These polls are misleading because the people polled thought they would be able to keep their existing insurance under this plan.

      Left voice: This is largely a result of the democrats' intentional obfuscation of the issue due to their funding from the healthcare system.

      Lib voice: But if Trump won it would be even worse, so we need to focus on stacking the courts...

      ...repeat until I have no arguments left. It's pretty hopeless honestly. My DC lib friend is too in the weeds to be radicalized beyond "progressive" democratic support. There's no focus on big picture, so there's no way to get through the nitty gritty arguments without revealing that I clearly know less about insider politics than they do.