:doomjak:

      • nohaybanda [he/him]
        ·
        4 years ago

        That would be an unambiguous good if it happened. Like, how many mice can a snake need to eat in a year? Add in a nice thermal lamp and they're golden.

    • Sam_Hyde [none/use name]
      hexagon
      ·
      4 years ago

      I mean, even if we did get m4a passed do you think they would make it good and not so terrible that you're ready to go back to the old system?

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
          ·
          4 years ago

          neoliberal think-tank nerds furiously jotting down plans for forced reduction in hospital staff and income based triage

          • Spinoza [any]
            ·
            4 years ago

            income based triage

            i never wanna hear these words in this order again

            • PowerUser [they/them]
              ·
              4 years ago

              we're using capacity to pay predictive analytics to help support access to affordable healthcare and stop americans getting into debt from huge medical bills

  • emizeko [they/them]
    ·
    4 years ago

    Noah Berlatsky

    remember when this guy tried to frame the Chapos as "regularly using the n-word on their podcast"? coward has since deleted

  • MelaniaTrump [undecided]
    ·
    4 years ago

    You'd think libs would learn a lesson about the popularity of this socialism thing after getting historic results from supporting a single $2000 one-time stimulus check.

  • DasKarlBarx [he/him,comrade/them]
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    edit-2
    4 years ago

    This is two articles down if you click on their name.

    MAYBE SHE COULD GET ADEQUATE HEALTHCARE IF IT WASNT RUN THROUGH A PROFIT MAXIMIZING SYSTEM YOU FUCKING IDIOT

  • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
    ·
    4 years ago

    I agree, we should nationalize the entire hospital system and throw all the insurance company goblins in a giant toilet.

    • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
      ·
      4 years ago

      pls dont treat toilets like this.

      just because they can be used for compost doesnt mean they can be flushed.

    • PowerUser [they/them]
      ·
      4 years ago

      M4A is a big ol' lib policy

      nationalise all medical practitioners and services

  • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
    ·
    4 years ago

    hey pain piggies! you know that legislation that has overwhelming support from the serfs, regularly at the top of the approval charts regardless of which political foosball teams fans are polled? well fucking forget it! youre not getting healthcare you sadsacks of unwashed filth. yeah we campaigned about giving it to you, but that was then and this is now, so youre gonna tighten your belt and get back to work because this pandemic is costing us money!

    :biden-nibble: :jokermala:

  • BlueMagaChud [any]
    ·
    4 years ago

    Nah Noah, tell you what, we're gonna double down on M4A and raise you worker ownership of the means of production

  • grisbajskulor [he/him]
    ·
    4 years ago

    How do I even explain to my very liberal friend that sent me this how wrong this is :agony-limitless:

    • MerryChristmas [any]
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      edit-2
      4 years ago

      Show them how popular M4A is, even among the rural voters who are harder to reach. A quick Google of "popular support + Medicare 4 All" turned up this article claiming M4A is supported by more than 2/3 of voters.

      Libs don't actually care about people, they care about ensuring the "good guys" win. Convincing them that it's going to be a slam dunk for whichever party actually enacts it - and that if they don't act, it could very well end up being the Republicans - is definitely easier than any moral arguments.

      • grisbajskulor [he/him]
        ·
        4 years ago

        KFF polling also shows many people falsely assume they would be able to keep their current health insurance under a single-payer plan, suggesting another potential area for decreased support especially since most supporters (67 percent) of such a proposal think they would be able to keep their current health insurance coverage.

        Lib voice: These polls are misleading because the people polled thought they would be able to keep their existing insurance under this plan.

        Left voice: This is largely a result of the democrats' intentional obfuscation of the issue due to their funding from the healthcare system.

        Lib voice: But if Trump won it would be even worse, so we need to focus on stacking the courts...

        ...repeat until I have no arguments left. It's pretty hopeless honestly. My DC lib friend is too in the weeds to be radicalized beyond "progressive" democratic support. There's no focus on big picture, so there's no way to get through the nitty gritty arguments without revealing that I clearly know less about insider politics than they do.