It's barely even close. Everything that was horrible about Trump was presaged by Bush. He unleashed far more harm on the world than Trump did.
It's barely even close. Everything that was horrible about Trump was presaged by Bush. He unleashed far more harm on the world than Trump did.
The only reason why Trump is getting more hate than Bush is because Bush respected "the institution', it's the one thing liberals are consistent on which is preserving our archaic democracy to remind ourselves that we aren't living in an entirely authoritarian nation, sometimes we get to vote out bad dudes!
The raid the Capitol was genuinely a turning point for liberals, because the sacred electors ballots could have been tarnished by some backwater yokel, a crime that can never been forgiven! Or when the institution was disrespected by Trump supporters moving various office items around Pelosi's office, that simply cannot do!
The persona of Democracy and government is the line the liberals draw in the sand, any other meaningful policy is just used as cannon fodder to make it look like the liberals are doing something for when they are in power.
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I agree with everything you said, but I'd also add that Bush gets less hate because everyone in this awful country other than leftists (and tbf, some libertarians too) was all-in on the invasion of Iraq. And going after Bush too hard on that would force them to accept that they had a hand in making it happen, by supporting it at the time. Even now, most Americans aren't sorry about the invasion or recognize the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths as a tragedy. No, they only have vague notions that Iraq was a "failure" and therefore was bad.
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I may be off base but reading and rereading this had me confused, and I realized I took it for granted that our friend Bush was W. and not H.W, I had assumed it was 2004 that had the country all-in on invading Iraq until the portraits!
What a fucking existence where I can legitimately confuse two invasions over my lifetime of a distant nation by two presidents who are in fact father and son and America was gorging itself on stars and stripes and just throwing money after money and lives into killing people in the desert Americans would have zero interaction with ever if things ran their course
like really? Is it a joke?
it's dubya, he did the portraits too
but there were a lot of blue no matter who-type libs who were anti-war. though that's indistinguishable from support for the war when you'll still vote for imperialists because they're on your team
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There was a significant amount of anti-war movement and Bush hate during his years. Do agree with you though that he has been whitewashed now, but when I grew John Stewart and Steve Colbert built their careers around Bush hate. The GOP floated Comedy Central through the oughts the same way Donald Trump floats every late night host now.
True, but the libs didn't turn against it until a year or two after it became clear it wasn't going to be a quick and painless little invasion. I was involved in anti-war protests in early 2003 and I can tell you, most libs were totally on board with it.
from my POV then the libs I surrounded myself were all against it but would just sigh and go 'blue no matter who' and generally stick their heads in the sand when it came to their team being imperialist warmongers too, and that definitely hasn't changed
and even in the street it was probably occupy-tier libs and not folks concerned with organizing as much as activizing (especially in stark contrast with 99 WTO), curious if that was what you saw first-hand
Counterpoint: https://m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon No sitting President respects institutions for long. Respecting institutions is for suckers. Institutions exist to fuck you over and take your shit.
Trump's biggest mistake was assuming "concervative" institutions - right wing media, big business, Republican courts, the military - were on his side, rather than just mercenaries on the take. They knifed him and dumped his ass the day after the ink on ACB's confirmation was dry.
Bush never had respect for institutions. He wouldn't be caught dead calling Sean Hannity at 2am, asking for praise. He didn't go running to the FISA courts for permission. He didn't trust the Pentagon to build the case to invade Iraq. He fired every Clinton USA that looked at him crosswise.
Bush shat on institutions. And people loved him for it.
Fuck institutions. All my homies hate institutions.
Why, if I'd been there I would have wagged such a finger at them! How dare they disrespect the sanctity of democracy!
Anyway, nobody gets healthcare and I need to drop some bombs, brb.