I've recently indulged myself in a firearm after Kenosha and militant groups in my area have started making a name for themselves, so I've been exploring the SRA and it's various media outlets to see what it's about, but something about it all is just, off.
To quote a movie line from a movie of which I cannot remember the name, "It's too quiet."
More specifically, I'm well aware that the SRA is meant to be a decentralized organization, but despite being left wing the leadership is completely radio silent, and I'm just expected to give all my information, name, birthday, address, etc to some sign up page so I can recieve some rinky dinky SRA card and patch? That's sketch as fuck.
And I know how much leftists care about OpSec shit, yet the SRA sorta has a "Come on in! :-)" attitude that a CIA officer would put in place to rud out local chapters and spy on them through their laptop cameras, or insert a CIA plant to pull a Michigan situation and lock up a bunch of lefists under some bullshit terrorism charges.
(And I know it's not crazy to assume the security state hasn't already found all the information on me, but like, still man.)
This shit is incredibly sketch as fuck, a leftist gun organization and no transparency? If someone wants to de-schizo me and convince me that the SRA isn't an OP, then by all means go ahead, but for now I'll remain independent of this socialist honeypot.
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Nah it’s not an op. You can sign up with a fake name, my chapter has a pretty serious vetting process for new members, and does a lot of mutual aid in addition to range days and reading groups etc. Its pretty dope actually, but I’m sure the experience varies widely by chapter
i regret signing up with my real name. no fucking clue why i did that. i never post on the forums and dont even own a firearm, just wanted to donate
hey thanks! i have a general idea of using firearms. however i would like to link up with fellow comrades
I don't personally think it is, but the point about having your name on a leftist gun owner list regardless of it not being an op is incredibly sus. Don't blame anyone for not wanting to join it. But I follow a couple of local chapters on twitter and they do a lot of mutual aid and very recently have done a campaign to rally money to help arm our trans comrades who want it. Besides their mission with education they are doing praxis too so I respect it. Another thing i'd like to add is they are very good about privacy and always blur faces whenever they take pictures from what I seen, which is automatically makes them better than a lot of other activist groups.
a campaign to rally money to help arm our trans comrades who want it.
Dope shit
They aim to be a "Socialst NRA" and focus solely on education. There was drama a while ago and a split, which I forget what that was about.
I don't know if they are an op, but I can say that I am also not comfortable putting my government name on a list of gun owing socialists.
I am also not comfortable putting my government name on a list of gun owing socialists
This is my exact rationale. It may be overly paranoid but it feels like a bad idea. It would be nice to have a local club to shoot with and whatnot but it's sketchier than I'm comfortable with. Add in the possibility of chuds getting that list, however unlikely that is, and I'm thoroughly spooked.
even if they are doing it for benign purposes their database could easily be compromised by state sponsored actors
Don't you already have to pass a background check to buy a gun?
Have you ever visited the SRA website or affiliated social media or websites from internet access you pay for without a VPN?
The government knows who I am lol. They assigned me a number at birth even. And I'm aware that they're monitoring these things and I have some level of digital footprint showing that I'm at least aware of the organization. But I would think that's different than being a card-carrying, dues-paying member of an explicitly armed socialist group with my name and address on file. Like I said, it's probably me being overly paranoid it just feels weird.
Yeah I get that. It only makes the feds job easier if everyone is already on a list lol.
Exactly. That was always one of the funnier parts about the NRA for me. All those people afraid to be on some secret government list that they signed up and put their name on a different list that did the same thing lol
All those people afraid to be on some secret government list that they signed up and put their name on a different list that did the same thing lol
This seems ripe to discuss with chud gun owners. "The NRA? You know the gun-grabbers in Washington have access to the membership rolls, right? I wouldn't touch that shit with a ten-foot pole."
I'm a member. I sat on it for a while before joining. I don't regret it. I don't flaunt it and, that i know of, im the only member in like a 50 mile radius of my state but i wanted to donate to and be a part of something i believe in which is left gun ownership and education.
The FBI doesn't need an excuse to run an op. They're extremely stupid extremely clever people. They frequently use their massive resources and expertise to engage in incredibly stupid and expensive wild goose chases, and other times they bungle the easiest things imaginable in ways that beggar imagination. TLDR; It's probably an op but who cares?
only buy pitted out old Mosins and 1950s era Tokarevs
A certain percentage of gun owners, whatever their politics, are classic fetishists. The gun isn't a weapon to them, it's a symbolic possession that by the fact of its very existence endows its owner with a magic aura. It's hilarious and sad when someone calls themselves a socialist, which takes at least rudimentary philosophy or critical thinking, but simultaneously thinks a Russian gun designed a million years ago is the socialist-est gun.
idrk anything about gums, is the AK-47 good or a meme
AKs are great, and there are a ton of modern variants in every caliber you could want (some people will think it's heresy to get one chambered in 5.56, but if you live in America where that's the most common ammunition it's a pretty practical decision). Since they're so common it will be easy to get parts to fix it if there's a problem or if you want to modify it for whatever reason.
I would say an ak in 7.62 is still better only because in both cases you'd still need to supply your own magazines and parts. Most AKs you'll find out there to repair your weapon will be in 7.62 so you can use the parts. An AK in 5.56 is an unrepairable gun basically.
Compared against guns of a similar age it’s really good, and is still top notch for certain purposes. Newer variants are all pretty good too. A gun is ultimately a tool and different guns have different usages that the design philosophy accounts for. The ak platform has many variants and the higher quality ones can compete with the best. These days the classic is outclassed by other rifles in almost every use case except the one that made it a classic: the rifle for revolutions and rebel groups. It still can’t be beat if you want something you can easily equip and train people with.
AKs can be good and can be shit, like any gun. It really depends on the manufacturer and the parts/materials they're using.
An example is that an AK from Kalashnikov Concern or Tula Arms will be a top-of-the-line quality AK with internal moving pieces being made with quality steel that won't easily deform or warp from short-term usage, whereas a Century Arms AK tend to use inferior parts in their internals and wear down a lot faster than it should.
It's easier to maintain and disassemble/reassemble and clean than the M-16 platform, and while it takes a bit of learning how to calibrate the iron sights on an AK they're accurate as well. In my own personal preference I'll take an AK over an AR since it has greater durability, maintainability, and kinetic impact as a general service rifle.
If I need something that's highly accurate or a close-quarters weapon then I'll get the right tool for those jobs. After all thats what guns are: tools.
“my great grandfather’s bolt-action is more reliable than an AR15!”
How is this a crazy thing to believe though? I don't really know about AR15s, but any bolt action rifle made in the last 150 years should close to 100% reliable. It seems to me that in the very best case an AR15 would be equally reliable, but feel free to enlighten me if I am wrong.
It's not an op but the national org fucking sucks.
The SRA is about your chapter and networking with other leftists in your area to do mutual aid with, shoot with, build solidarity and do leftist shit with. My chapter does mutual aid and distribution, game nights, we did a theory study session via Jitsi, and we still hit the range in small groups.
Do not sign up with your real name or with an email address connected to meatspace. Use a Visa gift card or a Privacy burner card to pay your dues.
I joined about a year ago. Most people I talk to seem to be libs and castrated me for defending Stalin slightly. I haven’t been to any ranges (took my guns to in laws after trying to shoot my self) but I just don’t know how I feel any more about it. I still have knowledge from the military, and I feel like my uses/skills I have retained could be used more.. say in a vanguard party?
the NRA is a lobbying org. leftist gun (im not a fan. they're loud and my aim is absolutely trash) owners do not need an org.
unless you're planning to shoot someone over the mulford act. and, I mean, good luck if you can figure out where they're buried, but I think the emptying of a septic truck would be a more potent symbolic act.
I don’t know much about guns but I know a lot of gun ranges require rifle association membership to use them. Does SRA provide that or plan to? At the very least it’s an org that will give you a list of people to talk to in your area if you want to learn more about gun ownership?
no clue; most of my shooting was done on private land. not that there was much.
Well back when I was in it there was a very present leadership and national comms on slack, but they sort of just turned into a meme page and the leadership felt like it was takinking away from the purpose of firearms education so they pushed people off of that and mostly into individual chapter comms. I lost touch with the org completely around when covid hit and haven't really paid much attention to it but I've intended to rejoin for a while. I did disaster relief with a few other people in the org and it was cool but that's the extent of what I did irl with the org bc most events were pretty far away from me.
But from my time with them they were very serious about only ever doing education and mutual aid, no militia shit, no armed demonstrations or you get the boot. Unless things have radically changed I don't see how a michigan situation could happen unless someone got through the veting process and agitated individual members to do something .
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/08/politics/fbi-plot-michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer/index.html ?
Slack is now a vestibule to get people into the local chapter's comms. I hear some chapters use signal
My chapter is on discord but most members also have signal and use that for some comms
