• RedDawn [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Just give up and keep doing capitalism forever if this is what you’re worried about. Any revolution that threatens global capitalism is going to be attacked so mercilessly that some “authoritarianism” is absolutely going to be necessary. And you’ll notice that these “authoritarian” states are the ones that are still around. Hence, it’s not playing into the capitalist hand at all, and the capitalists know this which is why these states are so heavily demonized in western press.

    • sadfacenogains [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Good job completely missing my argument. Maybe get rid of your own siege mentality where anyone who critiques existing socialist attempts is "anti-authoritarian" or CIA agent etc.

      Authority on its own is not a virtue, there is such a thing as implementation. For example, Cuba, despite being right next to USA, is far more democratic, less repressive and better than North Korea economically and socially. China is even better than Cuba in their pragmatic implementation of socialism, and so on. Both China and Cuba are "authoritarian" but implemented their methods of repression and protection in a far better manner.

      What capitalists say in the press, and even our own opinions of socialist countries have zero effect on them. It is idealist and egoist to believe otherwise. The idea that I should "just give up and keep doing capitalism" seems reasonable to you because you are simply unable to think of an alternative to the methods implemented by Marxist Leninist states. You suffer from a "Socialist Realism" so to speak.

      And finally, if you read Marx, you would know that these states haven't even begun abolishing exploitation or removed alienation.

      It is not a controversial statement to say that it possible to develop methods of governance that don't involve the level of repression North Korea has, while still maintaining sovereignity.