If you think the earth is dying because poor people are having too many babies, that's about three logical steps away from ecofascism.

  • opposide [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I’m not trying to be condescending which is why I even added the part about asking any questions, etc.

    You’re absolutely correct that socialism does not guarantee the elimination of waste and I 100% agree, but what socialism DOES that capitalism does not is incentivize the collective care of our environment as degradation of the environment is inherently the degradation of our collective. Under capitalism, addressing the climate crisis is not profitable and therefore not even a facet of where labor is directed. Under socialism this would be vastly different as the maintenance of our planet is intrinsically tied to the maintenance of an equitable society and thus socialism itself.

    • Phillipkdink [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      but what socialism DOES that capitalism does not is incentivize the collective care of our environment as degradation of the environment is inherently the degradation of our collective. Under capitalism, addressing the climate crisis is not profitable and therefore not even a facet of where labor is directed. Under socialism this would be vastly different as the maintenance of our planet is intrinsically tied to the maintenance of an equitable society and thus socialism itself.

      My point is this is obvious to everybody who posts here, it's not some amazing revelation of privileged knowledge only you have. Nobody here supports capitalism, everybody here is aware that its fundamental construction leads to waste and eventual catastrophe.

      So gee maybe if people here think overpopulation is a problem they're already factored in the waste inherent in capitalism. Maybe calling us reactionaries instead of listening and discussing where we disagree isn't the most productive approach.

      • opposide [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I openly said I’m not shitting on people for having these opinions and it’s not their fault, meaning they aren’t reactionaries. It is, however, a reactionary opinion to have sadly which is why I addressed it and wrote a big long post about it

        • Phillipkdink [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Sorry, you don't get to decide if my thoughts are reactionary or not I'm afraid no matter what community you mod lol.

          Honestly you sound like a lib who accuses leftists of being right wing because they criticize Biden. Like they literally can't conceive of the possibility that there could be a legitimate reason to criticize him because there are bad people who do that for dumb reasons, so whoever does it is bad.

          • opposide [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            I’m not saying it because I mod a community, I’m saying it because Marx and Engels both said Malthusian theory was wrong and based in reaction