Well, okay...I don't stan them.
But I have mixed feelings about them.

As a kid I was really into Star Wars and looked up to the Jedi, so I think it's a hold over from that.
The Jedi are flawed, foolish, short-sighted and kind of cowardly (among other things) and The Republic is a stagnant beasts with an inefficient anachronistic and byzantine system where the worst kind of poverty has existed for millennia.
...But I still kind of like them, despite their tragic faults.

Well...Idk if I like The Republic as depicted in Star Wars, in some ways I hate it.
But the idea of a galactic society where hundreds if not thousands of peoples and cultures are brought together to coexist is one I really like, and I can understand in the early days why the Jedi would of supported the creation of such an organization.
Of course it is just that, an idea , and the lore is filled with the many ways The Republic as a bourgeoise order failed these ideals.

Ultimately I think the Jedi erred in so closely associating themselves with and mooring themselves to a state.
Their understanding of the force and themselves is also incomplete or lacking, I think.
But at the end of the day I still like the little space wizard monks.
I respect their aim in controlling their emotions (even if it often materializes in suppression instead) and in being diplomats and peacekeepers for the galaxy (even if it often materializes in propping up an unjust status quo).

But now I am starting to ramble about children's media, which is an unforgivable crime, so I'll stop.

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  • theboy [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Yeah didn’t that happen to Revan? But also he’s evil or something idk

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I haven't played the MMO or read any tie-in books, but my headcanon is that Revan started the war to overthrow the Republic with good intentions, but Malak brought in all of the fashy Sith elements shortly after betraying his master.

      • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        That's pretty much canon I think, I think he kind of lost himself in it though, but Malak was alot worse.

        • ssjmarx [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I remember in KOTOR II Kreia reveals that a big part of why Revan wanted to take over was to prepare the Republic for an invasion of something else that was coming from either the edge of the galaxy or outside it, which was kind of a cool idea that they never got to follow up on.

          • goodshiparbitrary [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            it was, the purpose was to prepare for the real sith empire, what they later represented in the tor mmo as being a bit of a disappointment compared to the mystique of that narrative setup

            • ssjmarx [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              the real sith empire

              aww that's weak. I was expecting a unique villain like the Yuuzhan Vong, not "more red lightsabers".

          • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            I thought he was preparing them for when the emperor showed up, but that could have been a swtor post hoc explanation