The boog isn't a central org.
Anyone can go to their thrift store, buy some gaudy shirts, buy a shitty Hi-Point Carbine, Kel-Tec, or midrange M&P sport, buy the rest of their kit through Wish, then go out in public with that combination, and they're now "it's public face."
Many of the kitted out boogs I've seen have a low end rifle and shitty china gear. I could buy an entire boog getup, rifle included, with the contents of my tax return.
If you're buying a Boogaloo cosplay kit then you're well past being merely "adjacent" or "sympathetic." And you're also likely not being failed by liberalism; that said kit costs hundreds rather than thousands isn't the winning argument that you think it is.
So, backtracking if I'm allowed to, because I misread what you said then got mad about what I misread.
I'll own up to that.
That's totally 100% my bad.
I'm a fucking dolt, when it comes to reading comprehension sometimes.
What makes having the money for boog kit different than having the money for SRA kit?
Because oftentimes the only difference is the Hawaiian shirt
The kitted out SRA member is a comrade sure, but they had to spend the same amount of money that somehow disqualifies the boog, when the only physical difference in kit is the Hawaiian shirt, which have always been a thrift store staple.
Counter recruitment isn't the same as conversion/radicalization, fwiw.
If I wasn't clear about that, I apologize.
The Zetkin quote did mention both tactics. If not one, then the other, so that could have contributed to the misunderstanding.
It's reaching out those most vulnerable to being radicalized by reactionaries and attempting to stop them from being so, by laying bare what the ideology they're sliding into is, all at once.
And those are the people wearing american flag bandanas, unfortunately.
ETA: If a proto-chud stays a proto-chud, but they're now unwilling to put themselves in fight the for reactionary causes, that's still a win.
Also, yes, you you totally gotta make sure you aren't being played, a'la Daryl Davis.
The people he reaches out to are outright unabashed racists and far beyond that line of engagement.
But people wearing Hawaiian shirts or flag bandanas aren't. Or at least aren't merely by nature of them wearing Hawaiian shirts or flag bandanas.
The boog isn't a central org.
Anyone can go to their thrift store, buy some gaudy shirts, buy a shitty Hi-Point Carbine, Kel-Tec, or midrange M&P sport, buy the rest of their kit through Wish, then go out in public with that combination, and they're now "it's public face."
Many of the kitted out boogs I've seen have a low end rifle and shitty china gear. I could buy an entire boog getup, rifle included, with the contents of my tax return.
If you're buying a Boogaloo cosplay kit then you're well past being merely "adjacent" or "sympathetic." And you're also likely not being failed by liberalism; that said kit costs hundreds rather than thousands isn't the winning argument that you think it is.
Aaaaaaaaaaaah fuck, I read your comment wrong
Me rn
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I misread you.
See the edit to my comment above
So, backtracking if I'm allowed to, because I misread what you said then got mad about what I misread.
I'll own up to that.
That's totally 100% my bad.
I'm a fucking dolt, when it comes to reading comprehension sometimes.
What makes having the money for boog kit different than having the money for SRA kit?
Because oftentimes the only difference is the Hawaiian shirt
The kitted out SRA member is a comrade sure, but they had to spend the same amount of money that somehow disqualifies the boog, when the only physical difference in kit is the Hawaiian shirt, which have always been a thrift store staple.
No worries.
I never said don't try to convert people. But you'll probably have a better success rate if you don't begin with the guys wearing American flag bandanas.
Counter recruitment isn't the same as conversion/radicalization, fwiw.
If I wasn't clear about that, I apologize.
The Zetkin quote did mention both tactics. If not one, then the other, so that could have contributed to the misunderstanding.
It's reaching out those most vulnerable to being radicalized by reactionaries and attempting to stop them from being so, by laying bare what the ideology they're sliding into is, all at once.
And those are the people wearing american flag bandanas, unfortunately.
ETA: If a proto-chud stays a proto-chud, but they're now unwilling to put themselves in fight the for reactionary causes, that's still a win.
Also, yes, you you totally gotta make sure you aren't being played, a'la Daryl Davis.
The people he reaches out to are outright unabashed racists and far beyond that line of engagement.
But people wearing Hawaiian shirts or flag bandanas aren't. Or at least aren't merely by nature of them wearing Hawaiian shirts or flag bandanas.