people in the replies brought up at least two (Turkey and Poland if I recall). There's probably more if I bothered to check
I do remember one of our own posters bringing up an excellent response that was something to the effect of "Honest question but what do you think NATO is? A queer rights organization with guns?"
The urge to spread one’s own “values” by force to “backwards” nations is an imperialist and chauvinist urge that gets used justify imperialist war that actually sets that backwards country back even further (what “backwards” countries really require is peace, stability, development and education not war, instability, destruction and brain drain). Let’s call it the Woke Man’s Burden.
Anytime you start thinking “my country is better on x principle, therefore we should war with an enemy country to spread our ideals” you should definitely consider deeply if you are just being a stooge falling for imperialist intrigue. Lots of western leftists have fallen for this on Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia and even Palestine
Anytime you start thinking “my country is better on x principle, therefore we should war with an enemy country to spread our ideals”
I know that the British empire has been pulling this shtick for at least 200 years now so it's refreshing to see that it still works among nominal "leftists"
I generally agree but this is lame compared to, like, "orientalism" or even just the original "White Man's Burden" or perhaps "Western Power's Burden".
It’s a specific subset of White Man’s Burden with a synthesis with rainbow imperialism. Radlibs wanting to invade all the “fascists” like Kim Jong Un and Xi Jinping and Putler.
these are some fucking fighting words here
“Leftism is when you like the Dems!
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the last post I ever remember seeing on the 196 sublemmy or whatever was a vaporwave edit of the NATO flag saying "Gay Marriage is non negotiable"
How many NATO members ban gay marriage again?
people in the replies brought up at least two (Turkey and Poland if I recall). There's probably more if I bothered to check
I do remember one of our own posters bringing up an excellent response that was something to the effect of "Honest question but what do you think NATO is? A queer rights organization with guns?"
The urge to spread one’s own “values” by force to “backwards” nations is an imperialist and chauvinist urge that gets used justify imperialist war that actually sets that backwards country back even further (what “backwards” countries really require is peace, stability, development and education not war, instability, destruction and brain drain). Let’s call it the Woke Man’s Burden.
Anytime you start thinking “my country is better on x principle, therefore we should war with an enemy country to spread our ideals” you should definitely consider deeply if you are just being a stooge falling for imperialist intrigue. Lots of western leftists have fallen for this on Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia and even Palestine
I know that the British empire has been pulling this shtick for at least 200 years now so it's refreshing to see that it still works among nominal "leftists"
I generally agree but this is lame compared to, like, "orientalism" or even just the original "White Man's Burden" or perhaps "Western Power's Burden".
It’s a specific subset of White Man’s Burden with a synthesis with rainbow imperialism. Radlibs wanting to invade all the “fascists” like Kim Jong Un and Xi Jinping and Putler.
But strangely not the Sauds or Modi or any other of the dozens of homophobic places they support or even control.
Well, you see, if you are willing to kill or die for what you believe in, your an authoritarian, baby.
Would def be a tankie to day