https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/2595115

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      Brigading is when I say something stupid and people who can see it tell me how stupid the thing I said is

    • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      Brigading is when people post comments. Because posting goes against the spirit of a *checks notes* web forum. dafoe-horror pearl-clutch

    • Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br
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      9 months ago

      I'm stating the obvious, but it's only brigading because libs don't want to see hexbears in "public spaces". Instead, they're better off segregated into the containment instance.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      9 months ago

      It doesn’t eve make sense from a practical view. I don’t think ever seen a post here telling someone to brigade an instance. It’s usually someone just posting a dumbass take, it pops up on someone’s feed here, and it gets shared verbatim and they get upset when someone says they’re stupid

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        I could see an argument for some posts that made it into the dunk tank, but 90% of the time it's just us posting harder.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    9 months ago

    Awesome how their description of the "auth left" instance is "they're stupid and evil genocide denying idiots" and their description of the "auth right" instance, who are, to be clear, actual fascists, is "ha ha they're just kind of silly and edgy i guess :)"

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    9 months ago

    Blahaj isn't bottom left these people are out of their fucking minds. @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com is absolutely to the left of them liberals and I won't stand for this slander.

  • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    9 months ago

    implying beehaw and blahaj are just as far left as lemmygrad or hexbear

    these are some fucking fighting words here

      • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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        9 months ago

        the last post I ever remember seeing on the 196 sublemmy or whatever was a vaporwave edit of the NATO flag saying "Gay Marriage is non negotiable"

          • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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            9 months ago

            people in the replies brought up at least two (Turkey and Poland if I recall). There's probably more if I bothered to check

            I do remember one of our own posters bringing up an excellent response that was something to the effect of "Honest question but what do you think NATO is? A queer rights organization with guns?"

            • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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              9 months ago

              The urge to spread one’s own “values” by force to “backwards” nations is an imperialist and chauvinist urge that gets used justify imperialist war that actually sets that backwards country back even further (what “backwards” countries really require is peace, stability, development and education not war, instability, destruction and brain drain). Let’s call it the Woke Man’s Burden.

              Anytime you start thinking “my country is better on x principle, therefore we should war with an enemy country to spread our ideals” you should definitely consider deeply if you are just being a stooge falling for imperialist intrigue. Lots of western leftists have fallen for this on Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia and even Palestine

              • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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                9 months ago

                Anytime you start thinking “my country is better on x principle, therefore we should war with an enemy country to spread our ideals”

                I know that the British empire has been pulling this shtick for at least 200 years now so it's refreshing to see that it still works among nominal "leftists"

              • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                9 months ago

                Let’s call it the Woke Man’s Burden

                I generally agree but this is lame compared to, like, "orientalism" or even just the original "White Man's Burden" or perhaps "Western Power's Burden".

                • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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                  9 months ago

                  It’s a specific subset of White Man’s Burden with a synthesis with rainbow imperialism. Radlibs wanting to invade all the “fascists” like Kim Jong Un and Xi Jinping and Putler.

  • macabrett
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    9 months ago

    The longer I live, the more I realize the "Libertarian vs Authoritarian" scale is really just "government or not government?" and its not a useful thing to measure.

    • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      The only valid political compass format is “who should own all the stuff” on the x axis with “everyone” on the left and “one person” on the right. The y-axis is “how serious are you about that?” with “very serious” at the top and “eh I don’t really care” at the bottom

    • mayo_cider [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      On any political compass test it means "genocide or no genocide", I've never seen any sane person get authoritarian left

    • machiabelly [she/her]
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      9 months ago

      Chasers are libertarians everyone. Thinking that certain kinds of people exist only for your sexual gratification is freedom.

      trans-gun

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    9 months ago

    brigading

    See also: "I want to be a part of the fediverse so other instances can interact with each other, but I wish all these other instances would stop interacting with MY instance!!" They're literally just federation NIMBYs

      • mayo_cider [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        And I will shit on their backyard online just like in real life

    • culpritus [any]
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      9 months ago

      federation NIMBYs

      *latest fad

      why are all these commoners in MY commons!?!?

  • HornyOnMain
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    9 months ago

    lemmitor "actually all gay people are automatically as far left as communists" very-smart

  • lckdscl [they/them]@whiskers.bim.boats
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    9 months ago

    Most of them are unironic tankies and communists Marxists.

    Sorry folks, they got us. We're not real commies, we're just theory-reading, paper-selling, terminally online mArxIsts.

    For real though, can anyone here fluent in lib lingo explain to me why they think they're so smug crossing out "communists" for "Marxists"?

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      Relitigating centuries old debates about utopian socialism?

    • principalkohoutek [none/use name]
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      9 months ago

      "communism" is good in theory cuz it's harmless, it's only when put into action and has to be defended that it becomes authoritarian MarxismStalinLeninMaoGenocidism 600 Brazillion dead

      • quarrk [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        I read it the opposite way, that they think people label themselves as Marxists because the communist label is too bad to be open about, whereas Marxism gives an intellectual flair

        • ferristriangle [he/him]
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          9 months ago

          I don't think the OP is using "Marxist" as a softer label if they're pairing it with "tankie" though. It seems to me that they're trying to make some kind of implication that the tankies and the marxists aren't real communists, they're just authoritarians with a communist aesthetic?

          idk, I'm not fluent enough in brainworms to decode this

    • Sinister [none/use name, comrade/them]B
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      9 months ago

      Radlibs are trying to make communism the next social democracy, by defanging it. Thats why we are the “real racist putler conservatives”and they are the pro-minority inclusive cia liberals. Basically trying to recruit for the Dems.

    • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      Even the libertarians and rightoids are doing the “no true communist” thing I guess where they pretend to know what communism is better than the communists

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      9 months ago

      Communism: A noble, if idealistic (GROAN) cause.

      Marxism: Obsolete dogmatic screeds bound 100 years ago in crumbling, cigarette stained paperback.

    • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      Political neutrality is when you take the most mainstream neolib positions, and the more you agree with the prevailing ideology, the more neutral you are.

    • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      Centrism is such a fucking dumb ideology. They don’t even pretend to have values. They just look around and say to themselves “how can I be the most cravenly status quo bootlicker possible?”

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      Politically neutral aka what I already believe because my position is the correct default one.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      9 months ago

      Weird how Lemmygrad and us are out of touch with reality, yet most of our views align with the majority of the world.

      The same majority that the west has admitted publicly in the media that they’ve failed to court because no one trusts them.

      Weird. But it becomes less weird when you remember that “being out of touch” means having opinions while not being a cracker, or agreeing with someone who isn’t a cracker.