cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/2218175

That fluoride makes people stupid.

That humans only contribute like 0.2% of greenhouse gases and have no impact in climate change.

That petroleum is a natural renewable mode of transportation that doesn’t come from dinasaurs

And that science is not reliable because people just say “trust the science” but get made when you “question the science” and that he doesn’t trust what he can’t replicate

And that NASA just lies and was founded by NAZIs so they just do nothing and collect government money

What is crazy to me is that this guy is great at his job and has got me unstuck from coding related problems several times. Yet, he believes in all these conspiracies 😵

I considered this guy to be smart and yet he gave me this ackward conspiracy info dump session

  • StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    And that NASA just lies and was founded by NAZIs so they just do nothing and collect government money

    He gets partial credit for this one

    That petroleum is a natural renewable mode of transportation that doesn’t come from dinasaurs

    Also partial credit, oil is plant material, and if you disregard human scales of time oil does fit into the carbon cycle

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I vaguely remember reading something about how oil probably won't form again, because things evolved that'll just decompose the plants too quickly.

      Did I invent this inside my brain?

      • buckykat [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        That's coal iirc, formed mostly by the time between when trees evolved and when microbes evolved that could break down wood.

        • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Makes sense enough to me, it was a pretty vague memory so it's absolutely possible I just mixed up coal and oil.

      • StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        Wherever you read that was wrong, most of our oil is found in rock layers dating back to the mezozoic

        What oil needs to form is decomposition in an low oxygen environment while surrounded by non-permeable rock (normally salt)

        An algae bloom in a shallow sea or salt water lake could fill those conditions.

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      If you're gonna use that argument to say oil is renewable we might as well say every energy source is net zero emissions because the heat death of the universe will eventually consume us all.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I think this QAnon person got a bit mixed up on this. It’s an old idea from Young Earth Creationism that oil can’t have come old plant material because the earth is only 6,000 years old, not enough time to form oil. Just got it mixed up with the idea that dinosaurs walked on the earth until 4,000 years ago when Noah’s flood happened.

  • Doubledee [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    In my experience people with these sorts of ideas can't stop themselves once they get going, they have to just air out all the weird stuff they believe. I have traditionally 'aryan' coded features and a guy at work just started going off about how (((they))) are controlling everything and trying to extinguish us and none of our not-white coworkers have souls (???) and theres a race war coming and look at these tens of thousands of dollars in weaponry I have at my home and so on.

      • Doubledee [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        That's the weird thing though, our workplace is overwhelmingly not white. It was like a weird solidarity thing for him to have another cracker to conspire with. And he evidently got along fine with everyone else, I guess he kept the racist shit to himself most of the time.

      • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        yea have also heard some insane stuff due to this.

        Worse of all is that I've pushed back and instead of them getting mad they play it off as a joke.

        • Doubledee [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Yeah my weirdo was very confused when I tried to shut the conversation down by identifying with communism, but he kept going. It was only when he found out that I was a race traitor that he gave up trying to convince me (one of many times my partner has been instrumental in shutting down CHUDs).

          • Cyber Ghost@lemmygrad.ml
            hexagon
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            1 year ago

            I have met dudes with non-white partners who are still white supremacists, so I dont think that will shut down all of them. Many slave masters had slave concubines after all.

              • Cyber Ghost@lemmygrad.ml
                hexagon
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                1 year ago

                They either do it to escape poverty or because they themselves are non-white white supremacists. I have met lots of non-white white supremacists. It is a disease left from colonialism and neo-colonialism.

                • GriffithDidNothingWrong [comrade/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  There's a depressingly cynical pragmatism to it. If one group is oppressing a second group and you have no faith in your ability to unseat that group than you and your childrens material interests are best served by attempting to be part of that group. I don't agree with it but I understand it

          • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            It really is in times like that that you wanna be at least a little physically intimidating, tell those dudes to back off.

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Yup seen people try to push back on the racist bullshit on work sites.

          And that's how you get the nickname nr lover or ft, which you will be addressed as very regularly.

    • Graphite22 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      god damn I go through this once in a blue moon. I don't even look like a white dude that would be interested in shit like that, since I'm visibly an asian dude lmfao. I do have a germanish last name however and some of the shit people have said to me has made me want to change it sometimes.

      Just as an example, when I was in the hospital once, I had this guy telling me about how I need to be the sword and shield against the beast (aka jews) and that I need to visit the homeland once more. I had to do one of those defensive smile and nod / half pay attention maneuvers just to feel safe.

        • Graphite22 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          oh it was the guy I had to share a room with for like 2-3 days.

          I'm pretty sure I said "maybe I'll take a trip one of these days" like five separate times. Just bizzare shit.

  • KnilAdlez [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    That petroleum is a natural renewable mode of transportation that doesn’t come from dinasaurs

    I've always wanted to tell someone who says shit like this that it's actually a deep state misinformation to maintain the petro-dollar

  • WashedAnus [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I had an electrical engineer who works in semiconductors tell me that Bill Gates was putting chips in the vaccine. I was so stunned I couldn't make a coherent response.

    Engineer-brains can come up with the stupidest shit. Like, of course you could make a chip small enough to do that, but the real questions they didn't ask themselves were: "Why?" "For what purpose?" "What features would a chip that small even have?" "How far away could you be and reliably communicate with something that small attenuated by inconsistent depths of soft tissue?"

    • buckykat [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      New conspiracy theory: Bill Gates created the microchips-in-the-vaccine conspiracy theory so when you google "bill gates vaccine" you get that instead of his patent shenanigans.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    That fluoride makes people stupid.

    smdh tap water goblins still lap that shit up even though it's proven it calcifies your pineal gland.

      • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]M
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        1 year ago

        no, the pineal gland thing is something chuds say. fluoride protects your teeth from acid by incorporating itself in the crystal lattice of ur enamel

        • BigHaas [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I thought pineal gland was a hippy psychedelic thing. They think it makes endogenous DMT.

          • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]M
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            1 year ago

            a lot of crossover between hippies and chuds. all these “metaphysical” and “holistic” ppl are trying to sell snake oil

            but yeah, there’s that DMT pineal gland myth popular among psychedelic users.

      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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        1 year ago

        In concentrations about 100 times as high as what you see in most municipal water sources, it can have mild negative health effects.

    • omenmis [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      tbh even alkaline water isnt good enough at this point. does anyone know how to make basic water? id like to drink that w a squeeze of lemon

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    I feel a weird kinship with people like this because how we view them is just how libs view us lmao

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    At the very least he's intellectually divergent, which puts him above 99% of libs or chuds (the bar is on the floor yes)

    That humans only contribute like 0.2% of greenhouse gases and have no impact in climate change.
    That petroleum is a natural renewable mode of transportation that doesn’t come from dinasaurs

    are probably the dumbest ones

    IMO a lot of programmers tend to have this "pinpoint" intelligence where they're really good at isolated problems but horrible at having accurate holistic view of reality

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      At the very least he's intellectually divergent, which puts him above 99% of libs or chuds (the bar is on the floor yes)

      It doesn't put them above anything. All of these qanon people end up fascists.

      IMO a lot of programmers tend to have this "pinpoint" intelligence where they're really good at isolated problems but horrible at having accurate holistic view of reality

      They behave pretty much the same as all engineers do.

  • Judge_Jury [comrade/them, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Renewable petroleum is a new one for me. I knew young-earth hardliners had a non-ancient explanation for oil, but I didn't know any of them thought you could make it renewably

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    15 days ago

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  • TheCaconym [any]
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    1 year ago

    That petroleum is a natural renewable mode of transportation that doesn’t come from dinasaurs

    Ooh, you came across one of those rare finds, an abiogenic petroleum believer in 2023.

    They are rare these days, and mostly congregate on obscure forums where they also often discuss cold fusion.

    • Wheaties [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      It is correct on the dinosaur thing, though. I thought the leading theory is that petroleum comes from trees that died before anything evolved that could decompose bark?

      • TheCaconym [any]
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        1 year ago

        petroleum comes from trees that died before anything evolved that could decompose bark

        That's coal, mostly.

        For oil it's almost entirely plankton and algae.

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    And that NASA just lies and was founded by NAZIs so they just do nothing and collect government money

    This is false because they turn around and give the money to SpaceX