• invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Jon Stewart is a libertarian. He didn't lead anyone left, he trapped them in his garbage ideological jail.

    • spectre [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      This is not true at all. He's not "good" or anything, but what you're saying generally just isn't true....

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        When I considered myself a libertarian, Jon Stewart basically re-enforced all my bad ideas. I went left in spite of him, not because of him.

        • spectre [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Sure, I don't question your experience at all, I can almost relate although I was young at the time. I don't think that applies to most people though, there is far more variety. Stewart is only good for easy dunks on conservatives, not hard at all. If you're anything but conservative (libertarian, liberal, socialist, socdem) he isn't going to do a lot besides affirm that, and for some people (like me) it was a good way to keep them out of any far-right bubbles, but I don't think it entrenched me in anything besides "Republicans suck". Looking through this thread alone, I think that's a bit more common.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            That's what I meant by an ideological trap. He didn't say anything that moved anyone from their positions or revealed any serious contradictions. He just kinda reinforced the bare minimum for anyone who wasn't a racist piece of shit.

            That's most likely because his form of "south park" ideology was in offensive to anyone and sold tons of ad time.

            • spectre [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I guess maybe we agree more than we disagree on this, but I think that the phrase "ideological trap" makes me think that he entrenched someone in their positions, when all he did was push someone away from Republicans. Not quite the same thing imo.

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                He just served as a relief valve for a lot of people. I see him as no different than Howard Beale in Network except even less provocative.