Even if it’s all legit, I think it’s worth interrogating why those are the videos being shown, and not videos of the extreme suffering the Palestinians have endured for decades.
That’s fair. Although in terms of sexual violence, I think there is less footage to show of Israeli perpetrators because it most frequently happens inside prisons and recording is not beneficial to Israel.
In general, I try not to comment on the Israeli occupation because I was propagandized from a very young age to be pro Israel and am still in the process of deprogamming. Even in this comment, I initially wrote the Isreali-Palestinian conflict before changing my language to Israeli occupation. So I appreciate you bringing a perspective that I overlooked.
I just don’t want us to hand wave sexual violence as “just a part of war.” To me, that’s the same argument as people saying communism sounds nice on paper, but human nature is greed and capitalism.
This is more of a why are men scenario, not why are Palestinians.
EDIT: Just want to clarify, when I say it mostly happens in prisons, I don’t mean that Israelis aren’t assaulting civilians. They arrest anyone they want, call them a terrorist, and do despicable things behind closed doors.
I just don’t want us to hand wave sexual violence as “just a part of war."
That doesn't really sit well with me either. Personally, my takeaway from these anecdotes is not that "these Israeli people deserve to be brutalized". It's that the sheer inhumanity of 80 years of occupation where ten times the brutality happened every single day recontextualizes the few atrocities we'll see amplified in our media showing how barbaric the Palestinian resistance is. I do think that's different from excusing sexual violence, and if anyone does that our mods should be quick to deal with them.
Even if it’s all legit, I think it’s worth interrogating why those are the videos being shown, and not videos of the extreme suffering the Palestinians have endured for decades.
That’s fair. Although in terms of sexual violence, I think there is less footage to show of Israeli perpetrators because it most frequently happens inside prisons and recording is not beneficial to Israel.
In general, I try not to comment on the Israeli occupation because I was propagandized from a very young age to be pro Israel and am still in the process of deprogamming. Even in this comment, I initially wrote the Isreali-Palestinian conflict before changing my language to Israeli occupation. So I appreciate you bringing a perspective that I overlooked.
I just don’t want us to hand wave sexual violence as “just a part of war.” To me, that’s the same argument as people saying communism sounds nice on paper, but human nature is greed and capitalism.
This is more of a why are men scenario, not why are Palestinians.
EDIT: Just want to clarify, when I say it mostly happens in prisons, I don’t mean that Israelis aren’t assaulting civilians. They arrest anyone they want, call them a terrorist, and do despicable things behind closed doors.
That doesn't really sit well with me either. Personally, my takeaway from these anecdotes is not that "these Israeli people deserve to be brutalized". It's that the sheer inhumanity of 80 years of occupation where ten times the brutality happened every single day recontextualizes the few atrocities we'll see amplified in our media showing how barbaric the Palestinian resistance is. I do think that's different from excusing sexual violence, and if anyone does that our mods should be quick to deal with them.